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Posted By: Luketrician Battery Chargers - 01/05/07 05:12 PM
Also being a volunteer FF, I have been on several house fires involving suspect battery chargers & batteries. Now that I finally own a home that has a garage for my boat, I am cautious about leaving my boat batteries on a continuous trickle charge. I always just unplug the charger before I leave for anywhere.

So what I'm asking the forum is this; Is there a brand of charger and battery out there that any of you all would trust to leave unattended for an extensive amount of time?
Posted By: sawdust454 Re: Battery Chargers - 01/05/07 05:38 PM
I would and have used a permanently installed sealed charger such as the one in this link. http://www.basspro.com/servlet/cata...&hvarSubCode=4&hvarTarget=browse
Posted By: jdevlin Re: Battery Chargers - 01/05/07 07:13 PM
I have a 10amp charger with a timer on it. I leave it connected to the battery over the winter and about once a month when think of it I crank it up to two hours and leave it. The battery is out of the boat. It holds a charge pretty well on it's own.
Posted By: BigB Re: Battery Chargers - 01/05/07 08:31 PM
With chargers and timers it is important to locate them where they will not be exposed to the gasses from the battery. The arc from the switch contacts could ignite them. Also, the charger should be switched off before attempting to clamp or un clamp the leads from the battery. I guess it goes without saying the charging area must be well ventilated with no nearby ignition sources. I think in the OP situation I would buy the sealed gel cell batteries, if they are available in a deep cycle.
Posted By: Jim M Re: Battery Chargers - 01/05/07 10:35 PM
If you have a CO detector nearby the battery charger you will likely get false alarms. Have seen this happen several times.
Posted By: gfretwell Re: Battery Chargers - 01/06/07 04:30 AM
I burned a Harley up with a battery charger.
Posted By: stevecheyenne Re: Battery Chargers - 01/06/07 04:58 AM
I once saw a clever setup where the guy used a motion sensing light switch to control his battery charger.

It would only charge the battery while he was in the garage. Once he left it would shut off.
Posted By: JoeTestingEngr Re: Battery Chargers - 01/06/07 05:37 AM
My main question here if you need the charger to actually charge the battery in a timely fashion or prevent self-discharge of the battery. If the boat has a charging system and you just need to hold the charge during storage, aim small. A small, current limited supply might be all that you need and would add a safety margin. Don't use a cycle charger unless it can be switched to float or switches automatically when the current drops below a threshold or over time.
Joe
Posted By: electure Re: Battery Chargers - 01/06/07 02:32 PM
I've got a little 1 amp charger that works well for me. It takes awhile to charge the (large) battery, but always seems to be finished before there's another chance to take the boat back out again. [Linked Image]

I've got no battery switch, so always have to disconnect the battery cables after each use and flushout anyway. It's usually just go ahead and pull the battery, box and all, right out. It saved my tail once when my truck battery died, so is just kept in the truck as a spare when not in use.
Posted By: RODALCO Re: Battery Chargers - 01/07/07 05:01 AM
Use a low current option if you want to keep the charger on permanently.

Or if you good in electronics set up a LM 317 for say 200 mA trickle and let that do the job or buy one.

Always have a proper rated fuse in the DC line and of course on the AC side as well.

These simple safety devices seem to be omitted in the cheaper chargers but can be easily fitted for additional safety.

I got 4 x 100 Ah 12 Volts, back up accu banks at home, for my 24 volts master clock, 12 Volts burglar alarm and 12 Volts emergency lighting.
These are all on trickle charge 24/7 at around 150 mA. feed from 4 different chargers.
Posted By: Luketrician Re: Battery Chargers - 01/07/07 07:25 PM
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My main question here if you need the charger to actually charge the battery in a timely fashion or prevent self-discharge of the battery.

My answer would have to be both Joe. The link that Sawdust put up gave me some good ideas. Found one on there that would fast charge and trickle charge on three banks, it's almost $500.00 but I guess you get what you pay for. Thanks for all the great advice everyone. [Linked Image]
Posted By: SteveFehr Re: Battery Chargers - 01/07/07 09:39 PM
I have a $120 smart charger I used for charging up model airplane batteries. It intelligently plots the voltage curve on batteries, and thus can fast charge at a VERY high rate but still detect when they're fully charged, and automatically switch to a trickle charge. I can charge a Nimh from fully drained in as little as 15 minutes, and nicd even faster [Linked Image]

I tell you what, those suckers get HOT if you overcharge them.


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Posted By: e57 Re: Battery Chargers - 01/08/07 12:43 AM
I think electure has the beginings of a great idea - paralel it to your truck battery - always charged and only when you drive it around town...
Posted By: brianl703 Re: Battery Chargers - 01/08/07 04:06 AM
For my car, I use a Wal-Mart 1.5amp battery charger/maintainer. I use the cigarette lighter socket to make the connection to the battery--I wired it to a cigarette lighter plug.

I think that's much safer (and easier) than making a connection directly to the battery.

Of course, this will only work if the car has a cigarette lighter that is live when the key is off..and do boats even have cigarette lighter sockets?
Posted By: Trainwire Re: Battery Chargers - 01/08/07 08:11 PM
If it's a good battery, one of those cheap solar battery maintainer thingy's from the junque chinese tool store fills the bill. I've used those before. All you need a window next to the battery.

TW
Posted By: JoeTestingEngr Re: Battery Chargers - 01/14/07 09:35 PM
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Found one on there that would fast charge and trickle charge on three banks, it's almost $500.00 but I guess you get what you pay for. Thanks for all the great advice everyone.

I know that boats and airplanes are holes into which you pour all of your money but...
I would consider many other solutions before spending 500 bucks to charge my boat batteries. One thing I might consider is using an automotive charger that I already owned, powered through an appliance timer. But my charger wouldn't go directly to the batteries. It would go to a distribution board with diodes and fuses for each battery. The anodes of 3 diodes would be connected to the trickle charge source and serve as blocking diodes while the cycle charger is energized. The cycle charger's output would also route through blocking diodes to the individual fuses. I would pull the fuse for a battery that wouldn't get connected. There are many other possibilities.
Joe
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