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Posted By: Redsy Other copper supplies pricing - 05/16/06 12:09 AM
One of my customers is a plumber / builder.
He was not happy with a recent price increase, but he seems to understand.
Does anyone know if copper pipe has increased as sharply as copper cables?
Posted By: electure Re: Other copper supplies pricing - 05/16/06 01:08 AM
My plumber friend says that he's in the same boat as we are.

He's raised his new resi rough bid prices from $650 a fixture to $900, his bids are valid for 1 day.and he calls for his copper prices daily.
Posted By: Redsy Re: Other copper supplies pricing - 05/16/06 11:29 AM
electure,

Thanks buddy!

I was feeling a little "leaned-on". Now I know he is fully aware of the reality of copper prices. He is fairly successful, and I'm sure he is raising his prices accordingly.

John
Posted By: ShockMe77 Re: Other copper supplies pricing - 05/16/06 09:04 PM
I heard a plumber saying a 1/2" stick of copper sold for $95 this morning.
Posted By: Mike Wescoatt Re: Other copper supplies pricing - 05/16/06 09:40 PM
A few months ago I bought a bunch of 3/4" copper for 64.00/C and Friday I was paying 108.00/C. Fittings are just as rediculous. 1" tees are about $6 now...
Posted By: frenchelectrican Re: Other copper supplies pricing - 05/16/06 09:42 PM
QUOI ???

95 bucks for a stick or bundle of half inch copper tubing ?? if that a single 10 foot stick of copper tubing i think i just about fell off the chair on the price but i can understand anything with copper [ can be wire or piping etc ] sure will have big spike of price increasement


merci, marc
Posted By: luckyshadow Re: Other copper supplies pricing - 05/16/06 10:38 PM
I just checked the local Home depot web site
type " M" ( medium wall)
1" --> $ 33..4
3/4 --> $ 18.53
1/2" --> $ 12.00

these are 10' lengths
.
Type " L" ( thin Wall ) is a liitle less
But being an electrician I'm not real sure of the difference. (I used plastic when I built my house )
Posted By: frenchelectrican Re: Other copper supplies pricing - 05/16/06 11:55 PM
Luckyshadow :

thanks for explaining little more clear on this one i was rather spooked at first but i guess i did not drink the coffee at first place before i read this

Merci, Marc
Posted By: Rewired Re: Other copper supplies pricing - 05/17/06 12:09 AM
Ya I was going to say $95 for a single length of 1/2" copper??? Something isnt right....

If I remember I will look at Home depot tonight and see what the various sizes are worth where I am.... I am in need of some
1 1/2" copper and fittings for my pool.. Last I saw I think it was $34 Canadian for a 12 foot length... I will look and see what the smaller sizes are though...

A.D
Posted By: SolarPowered Re: Other copper supplies pricing - 05/17/06 12:59 AM
Lucky,

"M" is thinwall.
"L" is medium.
"K" is heavy.

Since they tend to sell a lot of "M" for residential use, it may be that "M" is at the current price, and the "L" was stocked when it was less expensive. (I almost wrote "cheaper," but that word somehow doesn't seem to fit [Linked Image].)
Posted By: gfretwell Re: Other copper supplies pricing - 05/17/06 02:37 AM
Copper in a pool? That must be a northern thing. I have never seen anything but PVC in Fla or Md. I was told copper would end up in the water and turn your hair green. What temp does your water usually run? That may be the secret. We won't even stick a toe in the water until it is 30c.
Posted By: Nick Re: Other copper supplies pricing - 05/17/06 03:02 AM
I was told last week a major copper mine just shut down and whole sale copper jumped $1.00 a pound. This is a very sore subject for us as I am on a very large job that was bid over two years ago. We are just now starting to order and install hundreds of thousands of feet of large feeders. For some strange reason, we don't have a bulk buy price locked in.
Posted By: gfretwell Re: Other copper supplies pricing - 05/17/06 03:18 AM
The company my wife works for is in a real bind. They sold a bunch of homes, pre-construction, 2 years ago. They have been having "eagle problems" for two years and now they have to build these houses at the 2004 price, using 2006 materials. This is definately going to be a loss leader.
Posted By: DougW Re: Other copper supplies pricing - 05/17/06 03:25 AM
My supply house quoted me a price of $69/100' for #8 AWG.

The Big Orange Box had 500' for $134.

While I was there, another spark was buying cases of #12... and ALL of the blue, orange, red, and green was GONE. there was maybe 3 1/2 cases of white and 4 cases (mixed open and closed) of black.

It seems like everybody's stocking up where they can before the prices go up more.
Posted By: Rewired Re: Other copper supplies pricing - 05/17/06 05:55 PM
Ya, copper in a pool is not normal, I am just doing it in copper as it is not that far a run and that is what is already stubbed out of the heater.. I have had a few problems with PVC fittings cracking and coming apart as is... I usually like the pool between 87*F and 92*F, and sometimes even warmer if its a cool night or its rainy, I like my 20,000 gallon "hot tub"..
As for what I saw price wise last night for copper pipe:

1/2"x 12'.. $19

3/4" & 1" x 12'..$31

1 1/4" x 12'..$43

1 1/2" x 12'... $53

2" x 12'.. $70

Scrap copper I heard today was $2 and change a pound around here, I guess its time I do something with that pile of scrap 500 & 750 MCM bare copper [Linked Image]

A.D
Posted By: kale Re: Other copper supplies pricing - 05/18/06 11:24 PM
I heard recently that our local utility is having a problem in a remote area with power outages. They go to check it out and find that there is a transformer pole cut down and the transformer windings are all missing. [Linked Image]
Posted By: Lostazhell Re: Other copper supplies pricing - 05/27/06 04:46 PM
I just ordered 350MCM feeders for a couple 200hp pumps.... @ $10.45/ft [Linked Image] [Linked Image]
Posted By: PEdoubleNIZZLE Re: Other copper supplies pricing - 05/31/06 03:21 AM
At least pennies have more than doubled in value:

A pre 1982 US cent is composed of 95% copper.
Its mass is 3.1 grams, or 0.00683433013 in pounds.
As of today, the price of copper is $3.7852 per pound, putting its value at 2.587 cents, not including the zinc content.

Today's pennies, which are 97.6% zinc cost 1.4 cents to make http://www.fark.com/archives/index.2006-04-30.html
the link is about 1/5th of the way down, but no longer active.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_(U.S._coin)

[This message has been edited by PEdoubleNIZZLE (edited 05-30-2006).]
Posted By: SteveFehr Re: Other copper supplies pricing - 06/05/06 11:56 AM
I'd heard the recent spike was from a strike at a Mexican copper mine. Does anyone have any more detailed information on this?

I found this article on Google News, seems to confirm, and give MORE bad news that that they started striking at a 2nd mexican copper mine, too: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000086&sid=amSaP3DDKH84&refer=latin_america

If we're seeing a large increase from the "Katrina Factor" coupled with production shortages, that gives a little hope that the spikes are only temporary, right?
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