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Posted By: wv-wire-wrangler Screwdrivers - 09/19/05 08:48 PM
Hi again,

Here's my question.

What do you use for a "faster than usual" screwdriver?

What I mean is for putting devices (i.e. switches, receptacles) or faceplates on do you use klein speeddriver, Black & Decker battery screwdriver, small(12v) drill or something else?

I do understand that most recommend that you use a regular screwdriver for attaching the wire to screw-terminal, but as a sub question.

Do you or don't you us a power-driver for wire screw-terminals?
Posted By: jw electric Re: Screwdrivers - 09/19/05 08:53 PM
What do you use for a "faster than usual" screwdriver?

A helper.

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Posted By: electure Re: Screwdrivers - 09/19/05 08:58 PM
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I do understand that most recommend that you use a regular screwdriver

You answered your own question. [Linked Image]
Posted By: Larry Fine Re: Screwdrivers - 09/19/05 09:24 PM
My power-tool choice is our B&D 6v pivoting 2-speed driver, seen here:
http://www.blackanddecker.com/BDCon...K/POWER_TOOLS/TOOLS/MEDIUM/6/PD600_1.gif

For hand screwing (no comments, please!), I love my Klein Rapi-Driv speed drivers:
http://www.allsparestools.com/Images/Klein/KT682-6.jpg

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Posted By: iwire Re: Screwdrivers - 09/19/05 09:33 PM
I am pretty fast with a normal screwdriver, can't stand the 'offset bit brace' type screwdrivers.

Third one down in this picture.

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Posted By: Redsy Re: Screwdrivers - 09/19/05 11:05 PM
Ouch, iwire.

I love that offset screwdriver for METAL boxes & mudrings. Almost as fast as a screwgun, but weighs next to nothing.
Terrible for plastic boxes, though.
Posted By: e57 Re: Screwdrivers - 09/19/05 11:43 PM
A very, VERY delicate touch with an 12-14.4 impact driver.

Oh, they didn't thread the hole in the mud ring, ah who cares. (Tacka, Tacka, Tacka, Tacka!) Even make threaders that fit 1/4" hex, not that youll need it after melting the threads off a #6 screw into a #6 rivit. [Linked Image]

Want tight terminals... (Tacka, Tacka, Tacka, Tacka!)

Add a nut driver... (Tacka, Tacka, Tacka, Tacka!)

Kidding, most of that stuff should be done by hand.

But for driving #10 X 1 1/4" screws to hang boxes all day long, there is nothing else like it! (Tacka, Tacka, Tacka, Tacka!)
(Tacka, Tacka, Tacka, Tacka!)
(Tacka, Tacka, Tacka, Tacka!)
(Tacka, Tacka, Tacka, Tacka!)
(Tacka, Tacka, Tacka, Tacka!)
(Tacka, Tacka, Tacka, Tacka!)
Posted By: iwire Re: Screwdrivers - 09/20/05 12:49 AM
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Oh, they didn't thread the hole in
the mud ring, ah who cares. (Tacka, Tacka,
Tacka, Tacka!) Even make threaders that
fit 1/4" hex, not that youll need it after
melting the threads off a #6 screw into a
#6 rivit.

LOL.

Nah that never happens, but if it did it would be easy to get out....right?
Posted By: iwire Re: Screwdrivers - 09/20/05 12:53 AM
Redsy, maybe I just don't have the knack.

It always slowed me down. [Linked Image]

Bob
Posted By: trollog Re: Screwdrivers - 09/20/05 01:16 AM
I'm with Redsy on this one.. got the phillips and the standard blade and love em' both- but not for plastic.. oh the weight they save...
Posted By: classicsat Re: Screwdrivers - 09/20/05 02:47 AM
I have an older 3.6/7.2V drill I use for most screws.
Posted By: hypress Re: Screwdrivers - 09/20/05 02:54 AM
A STANLEY YANKEE SCREWDRIVER The battery never runs down
Posted By: macmikeman Re: Screwdrivers - 09/20/05 03:26 AM
quote"What do you use for a "faster than usual" screwdriver?'

A double screwdriver.
Posted By: electricbill Re: Screwdrivers - 09/20/05 05:04 AM
Dewalt cordless screw driver runs the srews in almost as fast as a drill,then twist to the right torque with power off...
bill
Posted By: electricman786 Re: Screwdrivers - 09/20/05 06:59 AM
DEWALT DW920 7.2 VOLT SCREWDRIVER made life easier. http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/tool_detail.asp?productID=2739
Posted By: e57 Re: Screwdrivers - 09/20/05 07:24 AM
Bob it doesn't actually be come a rivit, but it might as well be. You can back it out with a dent puller, as it no longer operates as a screw. Also turns most screws tamper-proof, presto-chango.
Posted By: gideonr Re: Screwdrivers - 09/20/05 07:18 PM
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A very, VERY delicate touch with an 12-14.4 impact driver.

I've got one of those too, and second that. A bit too much Tacka Tacka and just watch it take the head off the screw! Cross threaded? No problem!
Posted By: Alan Belson Re: Screwdrivers - 09/20/05 08:02 PM
Impact drivers- are they any good? Thought about getting a Makita to blam screws into oak.

Alan
Posted By: e57 Re: Screwdrivers - 09/21/05 12:39 AM
Alan, you'll never think of driving screws (Permantly) into wood any other way after the very first use. I would however suggest good steel, or self-drilling square drive screws. Phillips, unless pre-drilled, can cam out on larger or longer screws. It's the same for driving screws with anything else, but you have less decision time as you would with other methods. As you think to yourself, "Oh, the screw may be binding" its already over. Like I said, a delicate touch! If buying one, go for variable speed! It will offer all the love, and less hate, if used conservatively. It has enough power to shear the head off a mid-grade 3/8" lag. But you can drive good ones all day long! (with ease)
Posted By: trollog Re: Screwdrivers - 09/21/05 03:19 AM
"hypress: A STANLEY YANKEE SCREWDRIVER The battery never runs down"

Oh man isn't that just a stroll down memory lane.. the yankee screwdriver! Anyone remeber drywallers using them? I'll have to go dig a dusty one out of the cabinet in my dad's garage where he keeps the old tools that were his father's and grandfathers.. just to see it drive a screw again [Linked Image] As I sit here thinking back, the idea actually seems to hold water for using them on plastic.
Posted By: IanR Re: Screwdrivers - 09/21/05 10:51 AM
I have a set of Wiha insulated screwdrivers and I love them. They fit well in your hand and also fit your fingertips pretty good when tring to work fast. They are also fully insulated and rated to 1000V. Granted I hope no one is going to work on a live circuit, every extra layer of safety helps. I got these at Sears though they are also available elsewhere.
Here's the URL for ones I'm talking about:
http://www.wihatools.com/328sets.htm

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Posted By: RODALCO Re: Screwdrivers - 12/24/05 02:44 AM
A good quality screwdriver.

Seen a few hot connections from drill tightened terminal screws where the torque was not set right, hence poor connection etc. etc. etc.
Posted By: Larry Fine Re: Screwdrivers - 12/24/05 04:02 AM
My fave is the 6-volt rechargeable folding B&D:
[img]http://images.lowes.com/product/028877/028877453101.jpg?wid=158&cvt=jpeg[/img]

6V drill, screwdriver and tape measure in one convenient cordless tool
2-speed gear box for low speed screwdriving and high speed drilling
Handle locks in 3 positions for constricted locations and tight areas
Forward/reverse rocker switch for easy change from screwdriving to screw removal
Integrated LED light illuminates work surface
23 position clutch prevents stripping of screws
Features convenient on-board bit storage

Note: the newer ones don't have the tape measure, but come with several bits.

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Posted By: Speedy Petey Re: Screwdrivers - 12/24/05 01:59 PM
I too am with Redsey on the "spinny" screwdrivers. I have #2p and straight blade in my pouch at ALL times. The #2p is for everything up to #6x1.25" drywall screws.

For regular drivers I am another fan of the German made Wera, Wiha, Witte brands. They last much longer than others and are made VERY well.

I also use a Makita impact driver to install devices (in quantity). It's not worth carrying it for 2-3 devices.
Once you get the right feel it is perfect! Those cordless screwdrivers are WAY to slow.
Posted By: Attic Rat Re: Screwdrivers - 12/24/05 02:53 PM
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(Tacka, Tacka, Tacka, Tacka!)
(Tacka, Tacka, Tacka, Tacka!)
(Tacka, Tacka, Tacka, Tacka!)
(Tacka, Tacka, Tacka, Tacka!)
(Tacka, Tacka, Tacka, Tacka!)

... Man,...you made me spill my coffee..!!!!
and I woke up the Mrs. with my howling..LMAO LOL !!! frikken hilarious!
Russ
Posted By: pauluk Re: Screwdrivers - 12/24/05 04:11 PM
I've used power drivers very occasionally when I have a lot of large screws to put in to framing or something like that, but I've never really felt comfortable with them.

Certainly for anything on the normal electrical side of things, I just use plain, old-fashioned, regular manual screwdrivers.
Posted By: macmikeman Re: Screwdrivers - 12/24/05 07:25 PM
The heck with screwdrivers, too slow. For true speed just bust out the old "Passload Framing cordless nail gun and shoot #16p nails into everthing. Naa, just kidding.....
Posted By: SvenNYC Re: Screwdrivers - 12/24/05 08:59 PM
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What do you use for a "faster than usual" screwdriver?

Add more vodka. [Linked Image]
Posted By: kinetic Re: Screwdrivers - 12/25/05 06:19 PM
I have always liked the Vaco line of "speedy" screwdrivers. Klein bought them out and I can't find a link online but they were always easier to use. Ball bearings and a more balanced offset made them a winner for me. Even used them for plastic boxes....then again I use the P&S quick clips.
Posted By: gfretwell Re: Screwdrivers - 12/25/05 06:25 PM
Sven is of the school of thought that

candy's dandy but liquor's quicker.
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