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Posted By: wv-wire-wrangler Howdy, and a question. - 09/12/05 10:43 PM
Hi all,

Just joined and thought I'd say hi. Hi.

I just took and passed my apprenticeship test and am now studying for my jouneymen test in November. I am still in high school and taking electrician classes at the local vo-tech school. I am graduating this spring and am going to get a job in the electric field after that.

I have a couple regular mulimeters, a Ideal vol-con voltage/continuity tester, and a non contact voltage probe but was wanting to get a clamp type multimeter so I can measure amps.

What model do you all recommend? I was looking at the fluke t5-600, t5-1000, 333, or 322.

Also saw that Ideal sells clamp meters, any experience with those?

Thanks,
Sam

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Posted By: iwire Re: Howdy, and a question. - 09/12/05 11:31 PM
I have the T5-1000 and it is my most used meter, I will get another if it breaks.

I got a great deal on the '1000' but all you will need is the '600' most likely. It's not very often you need to go past 600 V if you do you can break out a real meter.

The Fluke 87 is nice but many times it is also overkill, I like it for it's recording features especially when you get an amp clamp to connect to it.

I also have a Fluke 36 amp clamp and an old Simpson analog meter which you can't beat with a stick for it's classic 1960s look. [Linked Image]
Posted By: wv-wire-wrangler Re: Howdy, and a question. - 09/14/05 09:58 PM
thanks for the reply. I like the looks of the t5-600 but my concern is the limited wire capacity of the jaws. Do you find that problem?
Posted By: Electric Eagle Re: Howdy, and a question. - 09/14/05 11:12 PM
I have a T5-600. It is very good for a general voltage, continuity and amp meter, but it is limited. The best part is the size, it fits in your hand and doesn't take up too much space. But for amperage, you'll be limited to 120 amps or so due to the size of the jaws. I just keep an inexpensive clamp meter for larger wires.
Posted By: luckyshadow Re: Howdy, and a question. - 09/14/05 11:52 PM
Welcome to the forum !

I carry my Fluke t5-600 great tester but limited ,
Also have a Fluke 36 and If I dig even deeper .... here it is ... My old trusty analog amprobe clamp meter.
In general t5-600 is a good overall tester that covers most of your needs. IMO don't be afriad to spend the money to get a trusted quality meter, It should last you a long time and do you really want to trust your life to a no name knock off ?

(edited to add the welcome)

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Posted By: wv-wire-wrangler Re: Howdy, and a question. - 09/15/05 01:10 AM
Thanks for the replys and the welcome.

I was talking to some of my friends today (with backround mainly in electronics) and they said they would not get a clamp type meter but a multimeter with a seperate amp clamp attachment. They said a fluke 73 with the amp clamp attatchment would be ideal. The only problems are that it's a little over budget and would be a bear to carry around on jobs!!!

I am on a limited budget (I'm 17) so I am trying to find a meter $150.00 or under.

what about you guys (and girls)? would the fluke 333 meter be better or should I get the 73?

p.s. One problem I am worried about with the 73 would be carrying it around on the job which is why I was looking at the clamp meters.
Posted By: electure Re: Howdy, and a question. - 09/15/05 01:26 AM
Luckyshadow must have been in my toolbag again!!
[Linked Image]

I've got a T5-600 and a Fluke 36 also.
I love them both. Also I carry a solenoid type 25+yr old wiggie.

I've also got the Ideal clamps, but I don't use them often.
Posted By: ShockMe77 Re: Howdy, and a question. - 09/15/05 02:54 AM
I have the Ideal "Wiggies" and a Fluke 322 multimeter. I do mostly residential and light commercial. The 322 is good for 600 volts, 400 amps, and has been very reliable for the work I do. I quit using those volt-ticks years ago.
Posted By: luckyshadow Re: Howdy, and a question. - 09/15/05 05:51 PM
"Luckyshadow must have been in my toolbag again"


I only peeked , I didn't touch anything - Promise !!! [Linked Image from fadzter.com]

If you are just starting out , here's a thought . Why not just get the T5-600 for now then in about a year go for the bigger clamp meter ? Your money situation should be better then and most first year guys don't need a clamp meter any way. No offense. This time will allow you to check into the various meters.
Posted By: iwire Re: Howdy, and a question. - 09/15/05 06:06 PM
I have to agree with luckshadow, when new guy comes to work with me it does not impress me if he has a 600 amp clamp meter as I will never send him to use it until they have been in for a while.

What is important to me?

ON TIME!, leave your phone in the car, ready to work, your safety gear on and a full selection of the most basic hand tools including pencils and markers.

I do remember the new hires that need to always borrow the same tools, tape measures, pens and markers, screwdrivers etc.

If you need to borrow a tool that is a sign for you to go out after work and buy it.

Not to sound harsh, I just think that you should aim your money at the basics first, fancy meters later.

Bob

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Posted By: luckyshadow Re: Howdy, and a question. - 09/15/05 09:00 PM
Bob -
You are my Hero ! That speech sounds just like the one I give the guys on the job !
I had to double check that I didn't write that response. On Time ? Pencil ? The right Tools ?? please - just be glad I came in today- AARRRGGHHH that attitude drives me up the wall !!
Posted By: Attic Rat Re: Howdy, and a question. - 09/16/05 02:37 AM
... 1.Fluke T5-1000,
2.Amprobe AC/DC 3000
3.Fluke "pen tester" inductive type
4.Etcon Volt/Continuity Solenoid "Wiggy"
5.Moistened Fingertips..my fave
Posted By: wv-wire-wrangler Re: Howdy, and a question. - 09/16/05 02:53 AM
Thanks guys!!

I really appreciate the help. Looks like I found the right group.

Thanks for the job tips. I already have a great start, don't own a cell-phone and probably won't unless someday my job requires it. Only thing that will be in my car is my 144Mhz amateur radio!!!

Does anyone have a list of tools that I'll need? I have some but want to make sure I have what I need. Also, what brands do you recommend?
Posted By: Attic Rat Re: Howdy, and a question. - 09/16/05 02:58 AM
KLEIN!!!!!!
Posted By: sysrq Re: Howdy, and a question. - 09/16/05 05:08 AM
definately cant go wrong with a set like this(hope the moderators dont get upset at me for posting a link to merchandise)
Nice Klein Starter Set
I personally dont care for the bag, but that array of tools will surely not fail you.


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Posted By: iwire Re: Howdy, and a question. - 09/16/05 12:00 PM
If you showed up with the starter kit that sysrq linked to with hammer, level and markers (Go to an office supply store and buy a large box of sharpies keep them in your car) I would say you are ready for the work I would have a new hire doing.

You can build from there, a lot also will depend on the type of work you will be doing.

Wiring wood frame houses will use a different set of tools then wiring a concrete and steel building.

If you end up doing service calls you need different tools for that.

I am predominately a service guy as such I use a fairly small tool bag as you will always fill it to the brim and it becomes to heavy to carry. In the truck I keep a wide selection of tools that move in and out of my bag as I need them.

Welcome to the forum and the trade it is a good one. [Linked Image]

Bob
Posted By: wv-wire-wrangler Re: Howdy, and a question. - 09/17/05 07:49 PM
Thanks again all. I think I'll end up getting the fluke t5 600 meter. Looks like the most "belt friendly" model out there. Sears has them for $99.98 but I think I'll support my local electical store which is only $2 more!!

Thanks for the link to the tools. Don't think I could manage that at one time so maybe I'll just make a list and pick them up as I can afford them. Looks like klien is the ring leader of electrical tools.

Thanks again for all the tips and help.

Sam
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