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Posted By: Ray97502 How many different licenses in your state? - 07/24/05 11:56 PM
I'm curious, how many different types of electrical licenses are there in your state.

Here in Oregon there are 13 not including Electrical Inspector or EC

PS- Electrician, Limited Supervisor, Manufacturing Plant
LR- Electrician, Limited Residential
LRT- Electrician, Limited Renewable Energy Technician
LMM- Electrician, Limited Maintenance Manufactured Structures
LME- Electrician, Limited Maintenance
ST- Electrician, Limited Journeyman, Stage
SIG- Electrician, Limited Journeyman, Sign
PJ- Electrician, Limited Journeyman, Manufacturing Plant
LEB- Electrician, Limited Energy Technician, Class B
LEA- Electrician, Limited Energy Technician, Class A
BME-Electrician, Limited Building Maintenance
S- Electrician, General Supervising
J- Electrician, General Journeyman

Of course as an EC you can't install.
If you hold an S and an EC you have everything covered for a one man shop.
In Georgia there are 2 classes of EC, restricted and non restricted. The resticted can't work on systems over 200 amps. I think when they came up with it, they meant residential and commercial/industrial, but they never thought you would commonly have houses with 400, 600, or even 1000 amp services. There are also 4 classes of low volt licenses, unrestricted, alarm only, fire systems only, and telecomm only. I currently have an unrescricted EC and I'm planning to get an unrestricted LV to have it all covered.
Posted By: e57 Re: How many different licenses in your state? - 07/25/05 02:41 AM
California:
Contractors Licenses:
(Not including incidental like HVAC and Elevator)

Electrical (General) C-10
Electrical Sign C-45
Solar C-46
Low Voltage Systems C-7

Then there are Certifications , (Yet, or if ever to be enforced) more like what you are talking about.

General Electrician
Residential Electrician
Voice Data Video Technician
Fire/Life Safety Technician
Nonresidential Lighting Technician



[This message has been edited by e57 (edited 07-24-2005).]
If I count in the various levels of EC in the state there are 12 including the elevator guy...elevator electrial is a different license than an elevator mechanical. Here's the link
http://licenseinfo.oregon.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=link_class&class_list=13833,13830,13831,1536,1551,1683,1537,1555,1556,1713,1677,1666,1665,13829,13828,1739,1674&class_name=Constr uction%20contractors

So if we count all of the licenses there are including the inspector it's 26 different electrical licenses in OR.

The J, S, and C licenses can cover almost any other license. But in order to get a C you have to have the signature of an S and have one on the payroll fulltime.
Then there's another requirment that you have to have one S for each job. You can't have the S signed on to more than one active permit. So you can't hire a Journeyman to work on his own. Now I'm wondering how I could run a service truck here.
I Believe there should be Only Master, Journeyman, & Apprentice. BUT how many guys could pass thoses license Tests!! Most limited licenses are so people can get licensed Only in the Area they work in.
Posted By: e57 Re: How many different licenses in your state? - 07/25/05 11:53 PM
I would like to know what Mass has along the lines of these, in case my mom ever convinces me to move back after 16 years?
e57, Mass has: A, B, C, D, & Apprentice. (A) is Master, (B) is Journeyman, & (C & D) have to do with system installations. (Fire alarm & the like). A Masters license allows you to run a electrical contracting business, but if you do not keep your Journeyman license you can not work with the tools. Nice way for the State to get more $$$$ from us. The licenses are good for 3 years.

One question, Why would you want to return here after 16 years?

Al
Here in Maryland in order to pull permits you need a masters license in the county you need the permit in. You can take each counties test or take the state test. When you have a Maryland State license, you can just apply for each county. Thats all the state license does , it allows you to pick up the counties without testing again and again. Some counties (2) are starting to require a journeyman's license or a masters to work in their county.
So as for totals:
2 State Masters License's ( limited and Unlimited)
23 county Master License
2 county Journeyman's license
1 Inspectors license
To the best of my knowledge:
New Jersey...

Licensed Electrical Contractor
(Needs a Business Permit to 'work' & pull permits)
(Can do ALL electrical; LV, Alarm, etc)

Journeyman Lic. (Connot pull permits)

Alarm (Burg & Fire)
Exemption Card (Telco/Data)

I'll get the book out Wed & check the above.

We probably have a "License Board" for every conceivable trade/profession.

AHJ's are
ICS; HHS, Sub-Code and Construction Official
Elec; Plumb; Fire; Building; some areas have Mechanical, some don't.
Elevator is State jurisdiction.
Property owned by the State, Highway Authority, etc, is under State jurisdictions, permitted and inspected by State people.

If you can complicate things, the people in Trenton sure know how.

John
Posted By: e57 Re: How many different licenses in your state? - 07/27/05 01:39 AM
Al,
Why would I want to return after 16 years... I don't, my Mom does.....

Grew up in E.Somerville/E.Cambridge, got a Mom who has been bugging me for the last 15 years to come back, whos getting up in age. Don't think I will though... But nice to know I could be starting over if I did. I don't think there is much cross-over state to state, as far as requirements and documentation. I learned the hard way on a short move to Washington some time back.
HotLine1.
My brother lived in Burlington until he passed away last year.
If you think they can screw it up in Trenton you should see the mess they have going in Salem, OR.
About the only good thing I will say is that they have s state wide inspector program. But it's interesting that the inspector in the next town over isn't an electrician at all anymore, he runs his own manufacturing company making cultured marble stuff.
The inspector for the town I live in is only part time between a couple of the towns, but he is a full time inspector. The good thing is that every inspector has been a Journeyman, Supervisor and has passed an inspector exam so they have some practical experience.
Posted By: DougW Re: How many different licenses in your state? - 07/27/05 07:58 PM
We don't have a statewide license her in Illinois, but I know there are two types in my AHJ -
Quote
A. Electrical Contractor: Electrical contractor registration shall be required of persons desiring to do all phases of electrical work.

B. Specialty Contractors: Specialty registration shall be required of persons engaged in heating and air conditioning or sign installation.

1. Heating and Air Conditioning; Restrictions: Heating and air conditioning contractors shall be subject to a specialty registration which restricts their work to the installation of circuits required for the operation of * this specialty registration permit to installation of circuits in excess of forty (40) amp, single phase or longer than fifty feet (50').

2. Sign Contractors; Restrictions: Sign contractors shall be subject to a specialty registration which restricts their work to the installation of circuits required for the operation of their equipment only. In no case shall this specialty registration permit the installation of circuits in excess of twenty (20) amp, single phase or longer than one hundred feet (100') or any circuits in industrial or hazardous areas. All connections for signs from building to the sign must be installed with seal-tight conduit and weatherproof boxes and connections. No U.F. or plastic coated electrical cable may be used. (8-17-1981)

* Yeah, it wasn't your eyes - they forgot to include the line ablout "operation of their equipment only... etc. etc."
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