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Posted By: aldav53 20 amp recepts - 05/25/05 07:02 AM
Why don't they make a 20 amp recept - without the extra slot, like a 15 amp. Guess its legal to use the 15 amp for kitchen recepts.
20 amp for individual recepts circuits.
Posted By: SvenNYC Re: 20 amp recepts - 05/25/05 05:47 PM
Are you asking why they don't make 110V/20 amp receptacles so you cannot plug in a 110V/15 amp plug?

I believe that's the case in Canada, where the 20 amp receptacles are made so they will not take a 15 amp plug.

As for the logic behind that, I don't know. Maybe to prevent over-fusing? [Linked Image]
Posted By: Larry Fine Re: 20 amp recepts - 05/25/05 07:20 PM
It's because receptacles are rated according to the plugs they reject. 20-amp 125v and 250v receptacles will accept 15-amp plugs of the same voltage. Why should they not?
Posted By: frenchelectrican Re: 20 amp recepts - 05/25/05 09:04 PM
maybe i can show the picture between both 15 and 20 amp at 125 volt verison

here is 15 amp verison [ both usa and cananda]
http://www.passandseymour.com/products/product.html?s=78&mkt=3

will someone please help me with this link above , thanks

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Posted By: HLCbuild Re: 20 amp recepts - 05/26/05 12:18 AM
Aldav53,
Your basic 15 amp duplex receptacles are rated for 20 amp when used as feed thru with more than one receptacle. So you can use them in the kitchen. I think this answers your question.
Posted By: Wirenuttt Re: 20 amp recepts - 05/26/05 02:01 AM
It's pretty simple. If a home owner buys an A/C and it has a 20 amp 125v 2p 3w male cord and they try and plug it into a 15 amp receptacle, they see it doesn't fit. Next logical step is to call an electrican who tells them you need a 20 amp circuit for that apliance and explains that you can't just change the receptacle because the circuit won't hold.
Posted By: Larry Fine Re: 20 amp recepts - 05/26/05 02:56 AM
Correct, but the opposite doesn't hold true:

If you replace a 20-amp AC with a 15-amp one, nothing need be changed.
Posted By: aldav53 Re: 20 amp recepts - 05/26/05 04:52 AM
HLCbuild,
Yes thats what I was wondering. It doesn't make sense though, whats the difference between a 20 amp feed thru and a 20 amp single recept circuit.
Posted By: classicsat Re: 20 amp recepts - 05/26/05 10:52 PM
The bits inside are rated to pass 20A. The prong configuration is made to accept either a 15A only or a 15 or 20 A plug.
Posted By: HLCbuild Re: 20 amp recepts - 05/26/05 11:15 PM
aldav53,
I believe the thought is a 15/20 amp feed-thru rated at 20 amps won't have an appliance plugged into it that has more than 15 amps. If is it rated higher than that it would have a 20 anm male cord end and require a 20 amp receptacle. Yet the circuit will still be #12 good for 20 amps...if that makes any sense. It's starting to not make sense to me!
Posted By: gfretwell Re: 20 amp recepts - 05/27/05 01:18 AM
There are two issues here.
The first is whether you can use 15a receptacles on a 20a circuit and they are designed such that you can.
The second is if the manufacturer wants to require a 20a circuit for his equipment he can install a 20a plug and force the user to have 20a receptacle, presumably on a 20a circuit.
Posted By: Larry Fine Re: 20 amp recepts - 05/27/05 05:09 AM
I just noticed that the 20-amp receptacle in the pic on the site in French's post does not have a t-slot, meaning that it will not accept a 15-amp plug. That's unusual, from my experience.
Posted By: aldav53 Re: 20 amp recepts - 05/27/05 05:57 AM
Also, you cannot plug a #12 into the push in type 15a recepts.
Posted By: SvenNYC Re: 20 amp recepts - 05/27/05 02:17 PM
Yeah, that's my issue with wanting to know the reason behind that.

Some 110-volt 20-amp receptacles don't have the T slot.

They won't accept standard 15 amp plugs.

Sorry, I guess I didn't make that clear in my response to the initial poster. XD

[Linked Image from passandseymour.com]
120 volt/20-amp receptacle (marked as Non-NEMA in the P&S website)




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