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Posted By: cpal 2005 on CD - 02/14/05 05:35 PM
Is anyone having difficulty using the 05 NEC on CD??

swapping the disk from computer to computer or re launching on the same computer.

Just curious

Charlie
Posted By: iwire Re: 2005 on CD - 02/14/05 05:48 PM
I have not bought it yet, Mike Holt stopped selling them because the NFPA intentionally made the CD-ROM in a way that it can not be installed on a hard drive.

If you look at the licensing agreement (we all do that right?) it does not allow it to be run on more than one PC.

I will try to find the info Mike gave out.
Posted By: iwire Re: 2005 on CD - 02/14/05 05:59 PM
Heres a link where we talked about it.

http://www.mikeholt.com/codeforum/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=005287#000000
Posted By: iwire Re: 2005 on CD - 02/14/05 06:10 PM
Here is the thread I was thinking of.

It also presents a work around that will cost you money.

http://www.mikeholt.com/codeforum/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=005667#000000
Posted By: gfretwell Re: 2005 on CD - 02/14/05 06:42 PM
The more I read these threads the more I think all of these trade/code organizations are simply scams. How much do these weasels make?
We have millionaires squeezing tradesmen out of a day's pay or more for a book that is in effect a public law.
It costs me close to $1000 last year to keep up with all the books, classes, member dues, fees, taxes and other expenses necessary to keep my license up. I made exactly $0 in 2004 but I don't want to let this stuff lapse in case I do want to go back to work.
Posted By: gfretwell Re: 2005 on CD - 02/14/05 06:45 PM
BTW I have always resisted it but I may start looking on the warez newsgroups for a "cracked" version of the handbook.
I know there was a 2002 version floating around but I had already sent my pound of flesh into IAEI for mine so I didn't pursue it.
Posted By: cpal Re: 2005 on CD - 02/14/05 07:10 PM
Thanks to all

I'm having the same issues.

Charlie
Posted By: Joe Tedesco Re: 2005 on CD - 02/15/05 12:56 AM
While in Anaheim, CA this week at the Electric West show an NFPA employee said that the 2005 NEC CD will be replaced with one that will allow loading onto 2 machines only.
Posted By: cpal Re: 2005 on CD - 02/15/05 06:19 PM
Joe the next time you go west coast TAKE ME!!

I will try Joe Sheen or Jeff and follow up on the CD issue. There sales department didn't know anything about it 2 weeks ago

Thanks again

Charlie
Posted By: Joe Tedesco Re: 2005 on CD - 02/15/05 11:25 PM
Charlie:

I will travel to Denver, Kansas, and Palm Springs, CA starting next week, and through the end of the month and into the first week in March.

PS: Have you tried the "export" function from the NEC CD?

Members of the NFPA can see the entire 2005 NEC as a "Real-Read" document.
Posted By: Ryan_J Re: 2005 on CD - 02/16/05 05:28 PM
Here is the response I got from my nasty E-mail.

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Dear Mr. Jackson:

I/we are well aware of your concerns, which are shared by many of your
colleagues (including our own electrical engineers), and we are working
very hard to remedy them.

A revised version of the CD, allowing two downloads to computer hard
drives (and providing via tech support for additionjal downloads if you
change computers) and restoring the search function to its previous
utility.

This involves a fair amount of technical and legal analysis, as I'm sure
you can imagine, but we are aiming for an April 1 instock of a
satisfactory version of the NEC Handbook on CD, and a retrofitted NEC
within days after that, at which time I'm sure we will offer a trade-in
policy for you to return the CD you have and get a version that you'll
find more agreeable.

I'm sorry I can't predict exactly what day, procedure, or final
configuration of the CD will apply, but I am confident you will be
happier with the new edition, and I do apologize for the inconvenience
the first version has caused you.

Best regards,

Charles F. Durang
Product Manager, Electrical
NFPA

Mr. Durang's E-mail address is:
cdurang@NFPA.org .

I urge users of the product to keep the pressure on NFPA.

[This message has been edited by Ryan_J (edited 02-16-2005).]
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