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Posted By: Trainwire cool link - 06/18/03 06:37 PM
Friend of mine sent me this link about Honda of UK. http://www.daboyz.org/honda/

Rube Goldberg fans of the world unite!

TW
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: cool link - 06/18/03 06:48 PM
Great TW!

I'm a bit skeptical of some of the items in that sequence not needing a bit of help along the way though. ... drinking my half-full cup of coffee ...

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Bill
Posted By: Sandro Re: cool link - 06/19/03 02:19 AM
Bill.....

We forgive you, as everybody thinks this is fake, but it is real. No trick photography here.

For those who care, here is the official story from Honda....


Pure Genius

This is the new Honda commercial in the UK. There are no computer
graphics or digital tricks in the film, everything you see really
happened in real time exactly as you see it.

This film took 606 takes. The crew of engineers spent weeks shooting
night and day. The film took three months to complete and is two
minutes in length.

This is fast becoming the most downloaded advertisement in Internet
history. When the ad was pitched to senior executives, they signed off
on it immediately without any hesitation. They commented on how amazing computer graphics have gotten, they fell off their chairs when they were
told it was for real.

There are six and only six handmade Accords in the world. To the horror
of Honda engineers, the filmmakers disassembled two of them to make the
film. Everything that you see in the film are parts from those two cars.

Oh, and about those funky windshield wipers. On the new Accords, the
windshield wipers have water sensors and are designed to start doing
their thing automatically as soon as they become wet.

Turn up the sound, click on the following link and enjoy.
http://home.attbi.com/~bernhard36/honda-ad.html
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: cool link - 06/19/03 03:46 AM
Sandro,

Thanks for the extra info. I can sure believe it took 606 takes to get that string of events right!

I can imagine something like that would drive most people crazy, but I think I'd personally enjoy the challenge. (without a deadline of course)

Bill
Posted By: Bjarney Re: cool link - 06/19/03 04:47 AM
At three months, I would have been a slobbering idiot.
Posted By: Trumpy Re: cool link - 06/19/03 05:31 AM
I can't understand how them tyres climb that ramp like that, it looks un-natural.
Cool ad though,
Thanks Train-Wire!. [Linked Image] [Linked Image]
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: cool link - 06/19/03 06:07 AM
Trumpy,

That part didn't seem right to me either. It seemed like they started moving faster too. After watching it again I have to go back to my pessimistic view here. I don't see how the tires could roll uphill like they do.

Bill
Posted By: pauluk Re: cool link - 06/19/03 07:31 AM
I've seen this commercial on TV here a couple of times.

Wouldn't the tires rolling up hill depend upon just how much energy was imparted at the bottom? They'd gave to be very liughtweight though.

The sequence with the muffler rolling over is interesting too. If it's genuine, then I wonder whether they fitted weights inside provide the necessary balance and inertia?
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: cool link - 06/19/03 03:25 PM
Paul,

One of the Tires seems to speed up and after it hits the one in front of it, bounces back and then continues uphill again? There would have to be a heck of a spin on the tire to do that I think, wouldn't there? I just don't see where it could come from.

Bill
Posted By: rat4spd Re: cool link - 06/19/03 04:13 PM
For the tire skeptics, they added weights to the inside of the rims, on the upper portion. Large weights infact, and when triggered, gravity pulling them down causes tire to roll almost impossibly upwards. Just counterweight action. I wondered about that until I read an explantion on the directors (I think) website.

Bill- That's why the tire bounces back (against the pull of the counterweight, storing up a little more energy) then rolls back uphill.

[This message has been edited by rat4spd (edited 06-19-2003).]
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: cool link - 06/19/03 05:09 PM
Ah, now that puts a different 'spin' on things! [Linked Image]

That's what I meant about some things needing a little 'help'. If the parts were rigged in unnatural ways that would explain things.

[Linked Image]
Bill
Posted By: Trainwire Re: cool link - 06/19/03 06:58 PM
rigged or no, I thought it was pretty cool.

TW
Posted By: Sandro Re: cool link - 06/20/03 01:19 AM
Ok, ok.....I confess I am a HUGE Honda fanatic,.... I tried to give you guys the condensed version of this in my previous post, but for those who need a full explanation, *ahem BILL*, regarding the uphill wheels [Linked Image], Frankly, it's a brilliant ad.

Read all the details here.....

The Honda Accord campaign launched last week looks certain to become an advertising legend. Quentin Letts goes behind the scenes.

Six hundred and six takes it took, and if they had been forced to do a 607th
it is probable, if not downright certain, that one of the film crew would have
snapped and gone mad.

On the first 605 occasions something small, usually infuriatingly minute, went just slightly awry and the whole delicate arrangement was wrecked. A drop too
much oil there, or here maybe one ball-bearing too many giving a fraction
too much impetus to the movement. Whirr, creak, crash, the entire, card-house of
consequences was a write-off and they had to start again.

Honda's latest television advertisement, a two-minute film called "Cog", is like a fine-lubricated line of dominoes. It begins with a transmission bearing which rolls into a synchro hub which in turn rolls into a gear wheel cog and plummets off a table on to a camshaft and pulley wheel. All the parts are
from the new Honda Accord - £16,495 to you, guv'nor, or £6 million if you want to
pay for the advertising campaign. And what an amazing ad campaign it is, too.

Back on Cog, things are still moving, in a what-happened-next manner redolent
of "there was an old woman who swallowed a fly". With a ting and a ding of metal on metal, a thud of contact and the occasional thwock, plop and extended scraping sound, the viewer watches as individual, stripped-down parts of car roll into one another and set off more reactions.

Three valve stems roll down a sloped bonnet. An exhaust box is pushed with just enough energy into a rear suspension link which nudges a transmission selector arm which releases the brake pedal loaded with a small rubber brake grommit. Catapult! Boing! On goes the beautiful dance, everything
intricately balanced and poised. Nothing must be even a sixteenth of an inch off course or the momentum will be lost.

At one point three tyres, amazingly, roll uphill. They do so because inside they have been weighted with bolts and screws which have been positioned with fingertip care so that the slightest kiss of kinetic energy pushes them over, onward and, yes, upward. During the pre-shoot set-ups, film assistants had to tiptoe round the set so as not to disturb the feather-sensitivessuperstructure
of the arranged metalwork. The slightest tremor of an ill-judged hand could have undone hours of work.

Utter silence, a check that the lighting is just right, and "action!".
Scores of grown men hold their breath as the cameras roll. An oil can is tipped and glugs just enough of its contents on to a shelf that has been weighted with a Honda flywheel. Some valve springs roll into the oil and are slowed to a pace perfect to make them drop into a cylinder head assembly.

If all these technical names are confusing, that is partly the point. The advertisement was designed to show motorists all the fiddly little bits of engineering that go into the modern Honda. The result, in this film at least, is something approaching mechanical perfection and a bewitching aesthetic. As car adverts go, it certainly beats the "Nicole! Papa!" school of commercial.

If nothing else, Cog is a welcome departure from the generality of car advertisements that feature winding-road landcapes, empty highways and clear blue skies. The absence of people from the commercial at least saved Honda having to make any regional alterations.

It will be able to be shown everywhere from Japan to South America, Finland to
the Maldives, without any more alteration than perhaps a change of the closing voiceover, currently delivered by laid-back Garrison Keillor, the American author, who announces: "Isn't it nice when things just work?"

Cog looks certain to become an advertising legend and part of its allure is the seemingly effortless way the relay of parts slide and touch and roll with such apparent ease. The reality of the film's production was slightly different.

It was, by most measures of human patience, a nightmare.

Filming was done over four near-sleepless days in a Paris studio, after one
month of script approval, two months of concept drawings and a further four
months of development and testing. One of the more surprising things about
the ad is that it was not a cheat. Although it would have been much easier to
fiddle the chain of events by using computer graphics, the seesaw and shunt of events
really did happen, and in one, clean take.

The bigshots at Honda's world headquarters in Japan, when shown Cog for the first time, replied that yes, it was very clever, and how impressive trick photography was these days. When told that it was all real, they were astonished.

One of the more striking moments in the film is when a lone windscreen wiper blade helicopters through the air, suspended from a line of metal twine.
"That was the first and last time it worked properly," recalls Tony Davidson, of the London-based advertising agency Wieden & Kennedy. "I wanted it to look like ballet."

After that, a few yards and several ingenious connections down theassembly
line, another pair of windscreen wiper blades is squirted by an activated
washerjet.
Because Honda wipers have automatic sensors that can detect water, they start a crablike crawl across the floor. It is as though they have come to life.

As take 300 led to 400 which led to 500, a certain madness settled on the crew. Rob Steiner, the agency producer, started talking about "our friends,the parts", but in the slightly menacing tone of a primary school teacher discussing her charges at the end of a trying day. Some workers on the film went whole days without sleep and had to be asked to stay away from the more delicate parts of the assembly. Others started to have bad dreams about throttle activator shafts and bonnet release cables.

When things were going wrong - a tyre that kept trundling off to the left, or a rocker shaft that kept toppling over like a tipsy cyclist - the production lads on the shoot would start grumbling that "the parts are being very moody today".

Commercial makers are often accustomed to working with human prima donnas but no Hollywood starlet, no footballing prodigy or showbiz celeb, was ever as troublesome and unpredictable as the con rods and pulley wheels and solenoids that Davidson, Steiner and Co had to work with.

Towards the end of the production, Olivier Coulhon, the first assistant director, had spent so many hours in the darkened studio that his skin had turned a luminous green and his eyes had sunk deep into his Gallic cheeks.

Antoine Bardou-Jacquet, the commercial's director, kept puffing out his cheeks and whinneying, a note of deranged despair twitching at the corners of his mouth. Asked how long he had been working on the commercial, he gave a high-pitched giggle and replied: "Five years? Or is it eight?" It felt that long.

Two hand-made pre-production Accords - there were only six in existence in the entire world - were needed for the exercise, one of them being ripped apart and cannibalised to the considerable distress of Honda engineers. By the end of the months-long production, the film had used so many spare parts that two articulated lorries were required to take them away.

The idea for the advert derived partly from the old children's game Mouse Trap, and from the wacky engineering of Caractacus Potts's breakfast-making machine in the Sixties film Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

The corporate suits at Honda liked the idea immediately, despite the high costs of production and the fact that it was more than twice as long, and therefore twice as pricey, as normal car ads.

The two-minute version of the ad ran for the first time last Sunday during the Brazilian Grand Prix, and brought pubgoers across the nation to a wide-eyed speechlessness after the Manchester United v Real Madrid game on Tuesday night.

"It was a painstaking process, a tough experience," says Honda's communications manager Matt Coombe, recalling the making of Cog. Some of the original ideas, such as one stunt involving an airbag, had to be dropped
owing to a shortage of new Accord parts or simply because they were too hard to set
up. And on some takes the process would go perfectly until agonisingly close to the end.

"It was like watching a brilliant footballer weaving his way the whole way through a defending team's players, and then shooting wide right at the end,"
says Tony Davidson. The crew resorted to placing bets on which part of the
sequence would go wrong. Invariably it was the windscreen wipers.

When the final, 606th take eventually succeeded, there was a stunned silence
around the Paris studio. Then, like shipwrecked mariners finally realising
that their ordeal was at an end, the team broke into a careworn chorus of increasingly
defiant cheers and hurrahs.

Champagne bottles popped. The cylinder liner had brushed its nose affectionately against the rocker shaft and the gear wheel cog for the last time. The interior grab handles and the suspension spring coils had done their
bit. A classic was complete. Cog was in the can.
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: cool link - 06/20/03 04:24 AM
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rigged or no, I thought it was pretty cool.
TW,

No question about it. It was an amazing chain of events however it was made to happen. ... I'm going to work on that half full/empty thing ... [Linked Image]

Bill
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: cool link - 06/20/03 04:27 AM
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I confess I am a HUGE Honda fanatic
Sandro,

There's help available for you out there ...

Just kidding, Thanks for the additional info!

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Bill
Posted By: Trumpy Re: cool link - 06/20/03 05:07 AM
Guys,
You have to admit, it's really well done!.
Sorry to "crash the party", with that tyre comment!
Must have taken ages to set up and film this!. [Linked Image]
Posted By: pauluk Re: cool link - 06/20/03 08:10 AM
Ah... The suitably placed weights explain a lot of the seemingly "impossible" movements.

It's certainly a very ingenious commercial, and far better than some of the junk we have to endure where you're not even sure what they're advertising.

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As car adverts go, it certainly beats the "Nicole! Papa!" school of commercial.
True, although that Nicole is rather pretty [Linked Image]
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