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Posted By: renosteinke Saved from Electrocution! (Video) - 12/23/14 11:52 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/hero-monkey-revives-electrocuted-friend-184226053.html

Don't monkee around!
Posted By: LEO_304E Re: Saved from Electrocution! (Video) - 12/29/14 05:59 PM


He did a great job bringing his buddy back to life. thumbs
Posted By: gfretwell Re: Saved from Electrocution! (Video) - 12/29/14 07:11 PM
I was afraid I was going to see one of those today.
Asplundh was trimming trees along the lines today and I saw the guy in the bucket backing straight into a 26kv primary. I spoke up, he ducked down in the bucket and passed about 2 feet under the primary.
If he remained standing up. it would have hit his hard hat or the back of his neck.
He stopped once he was clear and shook for a minute or two, then went back to cutting but he took another route to that limb.

They do have a pretty cool hydraulic chain saw they use. You only hear the chain running. Most people might not even know they were out there until they crank up the mulcher.
Posted By: renosteinke Re: Saved from Electrocution! (Video) - 12/30/14 04:18 PM
I was beginning to worry whether anyone cared about this video!

I don't recommend the specific resuscitation techniques used - my, how the little guy flung his buddy around! - but it looks like the story had a happy ending.

I fear that OSHA will see this video, and require a 'dipping pool' be set up wherever live work is performed laugh

Since I don't expect Yahoo to archive the above link, I have tracked down the original Indian newscast for our uses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5WiGFIUH2A

In English: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovw6KPPNM8I
Posted By: sedesigner1 Re: Saved from Electrocution! (Video) - 12/31/14 06:38 PM
Greg, unfortunately, I had a friend who was electrocuted. I wasn't there and don't know how it happened, but I understand it was a 13kv line. He lived for 9 months, in a nursing home, before he passed away from an infection. I visited him once or twice a week to read to him until he died. It was the most heart breaking thing to see. Everyone here on the site, we all have occasion to work around dangerous equipment and voltages, please keep safe and have a safe and happy new year.
Greg Madjeski
Posted By: renosteinke Re: Saved from Electrocution! (Video) - 12/31/14 07:47 PM
One thing I HATE hen the topic of electrocution comes up is that everyone starts jabbering about "high voltages."

I witnessed am electrocution. I posted about it here, in a thread titled "Today I witnessed an electrocution," some years back. The victim had to be manhandled in a manner quite similar to the above monkey to remove him from the where he was, to where he could be revived. Ultimately, he was revived.

He was working on a 20-amp,120v circuit. He grabbed a 'hot' wire between forefinger and thumb; the current exited through his forehead, into a pipe he was pressed against by the cramped work space.

How do we know this? Afterwards, he developed a burn / scar tissue the size of a grain of rice on the finger and thumb. A dime-size blister developed later on his forehead.
Posted By: sedesigner1 Re: Saved from Electrocution! (Video) - 12/31/14 09:51 PM
Renosteinke, you are correct. Even more so because people may tend to be a little less careful working on low voltages. I have one of my tools from my much younger days, it melted when I shorted out a 120V, 20A circuit. Your reminder is appreciated. Again, stay safe and have a happy new year.
Greg
Posted By: HotLine1 Re: Saved from Electrocution! (Video) - 01/01/15 02:29 AM
Not to start anything gentlemen, but is not 'electrocution' a cause of death?? Electrocution is 'Final' is it not?

There is a difference between one receiving an electrical shock, causing seizure, burns, falls, etc., and someone being killed (terminal) by heart stoppage, or terminal burns.

Whatever; better to be safe!
Posted By: Trumpy Re: Saved from Electrocution! (Video) - 01/01/15 05:01 AM
John (Hotline),
I agree with what you're saying, electrocution is a cause of death, it is used after the fact, where as electric shock is used in the present tense, ie: before death has occured.
Posted By: Trumpy Re: Saved from Electrocution! (Video) - 01/01/15 05:17 AM
Originally Posted by renosteinke
One thing I HATE hen the topic of electrocution comes up is that everyone starts jabbering about "high voltages."

I witnessed am electrocution. I posted about it here, in a thread titled "Today I witnessed an electrocution," some years back. The victim had to be manhandled in a manner quite similar to the above monkey to remove him from the where he was, to where he could be revived. Ultimately, he was revived.

He was working on a 20-amp,120v circuit. He grabbed a 'hot' wire between forefinger and thumb; the current exited through his forehead, into a pipe he was pressed against by the cramped work space.

How do we know this? Afterwards, he developed a burn / scar tissue the size of a grain of rice on the finger and thumb. A dime-size blister developed later on his forehead.

So, let me get this straight, Reno, who is at fault here, is it the person that created the confined area around that wiring or is it the guy that never bothered to lock out and tag out the supply to the circuit before he started work on it?
I'm struggling but I'd tend to think it was the latter guy and he is bloody lucky to be alive, getting any current pass through your brain, in any weather is just down-right dangerous and stupid.
It's not so much the direct path from the hand to the head in this case, it's the internal voltage gradients on the way through that tend to muck people up in a big way.
We are made of meat, we have a very low electrical resistance to any sort of current, caused by the water content of our bodies.
When any current (irregardless to a degree of voltage) passes through our bodies, the path it takes and how it affects the heart and brain is the difference between survival and ultimate death. frown
Posted By: gfretwell Re: Saved from Electrocution! (Video) - 01/01/15 10:17 AM
I am just happy I warned a guy before he was already going to duck.

I like happy endings

My wife always says "be careful" when I stand on a chair.
Especially when it is a swivel rocker steelcase wink
Posted By: renosteinke Re: Saved from Electrocution! (Video) - 01/01/15 09:15 PM
Both objections were thoroughly discussed in the thread cited. Dwelling on these tangents only confuses the issue.

Death ... Let's see, complete respiratory and cardiac shutdown seems to qualify. Such a result sure isn't 'just a shock.' That man, like the monkey, was shaking hands with St. Peter when called back from Heavens' gate. They were simply dead until intervention brought them back. You want to argue 'near death' or 'partial death' or whatever, well, have fun playing Scrabble.

Blame? Fault? Yea- right ... with absolutely no knowledge of the situation, not even bothering to read the earlier thread, we're going to rag on the victim. Might make you feel like you're the smartest guy in the room, but pondering blame detracts from the point being made by my post:

It doesn't have to be anything extraordinary to kill you.

Look at the numbers .... I can't think of the last time someone was killed by a 50KV line. I doubt a week goes by without ordinary household current claiming someone.

Think about it: the biggest circuits in your home (HVAC, range and water heater) are the only ones not required to have any sort of additional 'fault' protection. No AFCI, no GFCI.
Posted By: HotLine1 Re: Saved from Electrocution! (Video) - 01/01/15 09:39 PM
Reno:
I do not mean to confuse anyone; I thought I made my comment as straightforward as possible.

I had students at the Vo-Tech who used to say "I got electrocuted today at work"....much to my amazement that they made it to class, and almost on time.

The last death by electricity I was at was a painter on the transmission towers who got up to close to the 125+/- KV line, & on the fall down took out the other painter below him. One dead, one disabled.

AS to the comments made of 'fault', that is always going to enter any discussion. The points were well said, and IMHO not 'ragging'.

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