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Commercial Electric GFCI's

Posted By: BigB

Commercial Electric GFCI's - 08/27/07 12:42 AM

Anyone had experience with these? I had resisted the temptation until today when HD was clearing them out for $17.50 for a six pack of them. That's only $2.92 each. I got 144 of them.

I have always used P&S, nice package, nice looking product, but over $10.00 each at the supply house.

Also, the P&S and the Commercial Electric are both made in China.
Posted By: ITO

Re: Commercial Electric GFCI's - 08/27/07 01:51 AM

I have never used them but for that price sounds great. If they are UL listed then use them.
Posted By: renosteinke

Re: Commercial Electric GFCI's - 08/27/07 01:52 AM

With all the recalls the Chinese face these days, and their open tolerance of counterfeiting ... do you really want to take the chance?
Posted By: BigB

Re: Commercial Electric GFCI's - 08/27/07 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by renosteinke
With all the recalls the Chinese face these days, and their open tolerance of counterfeiting ... do you really want to take the chance?


Out of curiosity, what brands are NOT made in China?
Posted By: Rewired

Re: Commercial Electric GFCI's - 08/27/07 03:13 AM

Leviton is made in Mexico and Canada ( Quebec) I think

A.D
Posted By: gfretwell

Re: Commercial Electric GFCI's - 08/27/07 03:20 AM

The problem is not "China" but counterfeit U/L labels.
I assume H/D is not dumping bogus devices but a quick call to U/L should straighten it out.
I think they even have a hot line for these things.
Posted By: TOOL_5150

Re: Commercial Electric GFCI's - 08/27/07 05:48 AM

I use these on a daily basis. I will most likely install one tomarrow. I have not had one fail yet and I have probably installed 10 boxes allready. IMO Leviton is not that great with their lower-end devices either. The receps that come in 10 packs from the orange box usually fail within a year. I would much rather install P&S, Bryant or best yet - Hubbell devices over just about anything you can get from the orange box but it comes down to - it is not my call.

~Matt
Posted By: HotLine1

Re: Commercial Electric GFCI's - 08/27/07 11:30 AM

BTW, Hubbell has a 'product notification' on comm GFI devices (July '07) released within the last 10 days that I'm aware of.
Hubbell GFI I have are made in Korea (my surprise too)
Posted By: Retired_Helper

Re: Commercial Electric GFCI's - 08/27/07 04:53 PM

FYI, Leviton stopped manufacturing in Canada some years ago. Canada never made GFCI's. The GFCI's were first made in the Brooklyn plant, then in the West Kingston, RI, plant, then they moved to Tijuana, Mexico. A plant in Singapore used to produce GFCI's for Leviton, don't know if they still do. Leviton (last I knew) had two plants in mainland China, initially making telcom stuff.

How to recognize Leviton devices under other brand names: look for coding on any packaging (box, instruction sheet, etc) in the following format:

LL-AAA-AAAAA-AAA, where L is always a letter, and A could be a letter or a number.
Posted By: CTwireman

Re: Commercial Electric GFCI's - 08/27/07 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Retired_Helper
The GFCI's were first made in the Brooklyn plant, then in the West Kingston, RI, plant, then they moved to Tijuana, Mexico.


I always thought that they were made at the Hillsgrove plant in Warwick, RI. Interesting. Last I heard, they have all but stopped manufacturing at Hillsgrove, leaving only the distribution center in operation.

As for the Commercial Electric GFCI's, they did have striking similarities to the Leviton ones, however, I noticed that the plastic near the ground pin hole was very thin so I didn't bother buying any. Good deal, yes, but I am suspicious of stuff without a brand name on a special run from places like HD. I'll stick with the brand names.
Posted By: Retired_Helper

Re: Commercial Electric GFCI's - 08/27/07 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by CTwireman
Originally Posted by Retired_Helper
The GFCI's were first made in the Brooklyn plant, then in the West Kingston, RI, plant, then they moved to Tijuana, Mexico.


I always thought that they were made at the Hillsgrove plant in Warwick, RI. Interesting. Last I heard, they have all but stopped manufacturing at Hillsgrove, leaving only the distribution center in operation.


Argh! Ya got me, it's true, some of the GFCI production went to Hillsgrove before heading south. How could I forget? They cut a big hole in the top floor rear facade of the 3 storey building in Warwick, and lifted equipment up there by crane.

Leviton Hillsgrove manufacturing officially ended in 2006. As you mentioned, and the last I knew, Leviton's distribution arm now occupies the entire complex.
Posted By: TOOL_5150

Re: Commercial Electric GFCI's - 08/28/07 09:04 PM

I installed a commercial electric GFI yesterday and there, right on the back of it, "Made In the USA"

Im glad I bought another 10 boxes a few days ago.


~Matt
Posted By: NORCAL

Re: Commercial Electric GFCI's - 08/29/07 01:52 AM

"I installed a commercial electric GFI yesterday and there, right on the back of it, "Made In the USA" "
Sure it was not USA province of China??? :D:D:D:D:D
Posted By: CTwireman

Re: Commercial Electric GFCI's - 08/29/07 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by TOOL_5150
I installed a commercial electric GFI yesterday and there, right on the back of it, "Made In the USA"



I find that impossible to believe, but I might be convinced with some photographic evidence. I haven't seen an American made GFCI in years now, least of all a Home Depot knockoff brand.
Posted By: BigB

Re: Commercial Electric GFCI's - 08/29/07 03:37 AM

Are you sure it didn't say "box made in USA?"
Posted By: TOOL_5150

Re: Commercial Electric GFCI's - 08/29/07 04:25 AM

It was quite a long day, I may have my info backwards... I will get a pic tomarrow... Or an apology if I was wrong.

~Matt
Posted By: TOOL_5150

Re: Commercial Electric GFCI's - 08/30/07 09:52 PM

I did in fact have the wrong info. The "Made In USA" stamp was on some cooper electric devices I was installing the same day.

Long days, Half being int he hot sun doesnt do well on the brain sometimes.

~Matt
Posted By: NORCAL

Re: Commercial Electric GFCI's - 08/31/07 12:32 AM

Anything "Commercial Electric" is a contribution to the Peoples Liberation Army, AKA made in China.. I would much rather use Leviton over any off brand like Commercial Electric or the "UL approved" (yeah right) Horror Fright GFCI.
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