Has anyone every seen these lights before?

http://www.windowcandles.com

They are located in Maryland and an EC by me is going to use them in a large new house. I am not sure how to link here to the candle website. They look very intersting.

Harold:
Nice idea! My only concern is the 'yellow wire'.....suitable for inside of walls??
Looks like yellow zip cord to me, & no info via the pages in the link.

FWIW, I saw a 'candle'; 120 volt that plugs into a single receptacle via a male plug in the base. Can't remember where that was.

John here is some info I found on the site.

John: Might you be thinking of "Receptacles That Face Up"? It was under "Photos Submitted for Discussion" forum here on ECN. I would have left a link, but I don't know how to do that properly.

This is the link for the 120v candles.
https://www.electrical-contractor.n...showflat/Number/167161/page/1#Post167161

steve

John,

As Bob said, you must use the manufactures wire and install it as per the manufacture instructions. This is something totally new, and I have never seen it before. I thought that everyone else out there might like to see something new. You now can have "holiday" candles up all year round, using low voltage, and still meet the NEC.

BTW, There are end caps that you can install on these open "Receptacles" or spots where the candles plug into. The cap keeps dirt and other things out of the "receptacle".

It gets tougher each day to remember where you see things lately.

My question was regarding the 'yellow' wire being concealed in construction, not regarding the mfg instructions. Funny, they don't mention anything?

Thanks for the reminders and info.

It's a class 2 transformer. I'm assuming that is what makes it acceptable to use that wire inside the walls.

This definitely seems like a better idea than the 120V face-up receptacles!

Just my opinion.
Putting these things in a new home wishing they will last the life of the home is optimistic at best.

I doubt if the single product company of Window Candles LLC with its proprietary bulbs, wire, receptacles, blank off caps, etc. will be around in 20 years for product support.

The real issue for the homeowner is whether the wire in the wall will hold up. I bet the luminaire itself will be LEDs in a few years. I think this is such a niche product that most people will just want them gone. I suppose the worst case would be the guy who decides to abandon the class 2 system and make this 120v, using the zip cord.

I have installed this now a few times. And i must say there are the biggest pain in the as% i have ever delt with. The yellow wire comes into the socket and get split like a cross. The peice snaps in when you screw it down (which are eye glasses screws) and peirces the wire. i just installed these in a new custom home approx 20 windows it took forever to do the final. transformer was a cake install, pulling wires were so so. i had been informed to not cut lines between windows in other words keep it one solid line from start to finish making a loop at each window. thus you can check for continuity befor doing the final. i found this a waste of time as you land up cutting the line upon installing the bases. over all these things produce a low light, they land up falling on the center window mullers for cross frame if your window has one. the house i did had a large sill which the finish framer had not drilled very well. so i could not shove the wire back down into the wall had i been able to this prob may have made the job alittle better. OVERALL I GIVE THIS PRODUCT A 2 OUT OF 10 :-{ i will never push this product on any of my customers ever!!!!!

NJ wireman:
Nice report and post.
Thanks for a 'first hand' update.

I will make sure that I tell the EC about your concerns with the installation of these lights. He is a friend of mine and he was concerned about the installation of these candles.