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Problem with Chatroom Logins?

Posted By: Admin

Problem with Chatroom Logins? - 04/25/07 06:45 PM

I'd like to put a little background here first. The Chatroom Software is a stand-alone product not related to the Forum Software here. As it comes "out of the box" it allows anyone to sign up with any name and password, which we thought would be confusing to members as to who is who and there would be no assurance that someone would not be impersonated there. With this in mind the chat software was modified to look at the forum name and password database at some point for confirmation.

Here is the problem:
The new Forum has one-way encrypted name and password info that can't be read by the chatroom software, so it is still reading the old Forum database info at this time. This means that new people cannot get signed up for the chat area at the present time, unless we enter some info manually. It also means (I think) that if an existing chat member changes their password the new password will not work for the chat area as it is looking for the old one.

We are looking into solutions to resolve the problem, but in the meantime, if any New Members would like to use the chat area you can send me a PM with the password you would like to use and I will set it up. Otherwise you can also send an email to: Webmaster@Electrical-Contractor.net with your username and password (please put ECN chat in the subject so I can pick it out of the spam)

Also, if any existing chat members have a problem or need their chat password changed let me know.

Bill
Posted By: dougwells

Re: Problem with Chatroom Logins? - 04/25/07 07:16 PM

Thanks for the update Bill,and the extra precautions for the members chatroom
Posted By: RDK

Re: Problem with Chatroom Logins? - 04/26/07 03:43 AM

I can never login? Im using my pass word and proper name
Posted By: Admin

Re: Problem with Chatroom Logins? - 04/26/07 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by RDK
I can never login? Im using my pass word and proper name
RDK,

As I said above, if any New Members would like to use the chat area you can send me a PM with the password you would like to use and I will set it up. Otherwise you can also send an email to: Webmaster@Electrical-Contractor.net with your username and password (please put ECN chat in the subject so I can pick it out of the spam)

Bill
Posted By: Luketrician

Re: Problem with Chatroom Logins? - 04/26/07 02:45 PM

I don't guess I will be able to be apart of the chatrooms anymore..reguardless. My work computer has had the 'java script' disabled.? Just another restriction I am going to have to deal with. I just hope the IT people here at my work don't block me from this site altogether, since I don't have internet @home.
Posted By: Trumpy

Re: Problem with Chatroom Logins? - 04/27/07 06:02 AM

Luke,
Not entirely true.
As long as the computer you are using has Java Work Environment on it, you should be fine.
I'm not for anyone slacking off at work, being on the Net, but as far as I am aware it is not a script that allows you into Chatrooms.
As long as your cookies are "true" with the ECN server, you shouldn't have a problem.
BTW, Scripts are what hackers use to take over computers.
Javascript has little to do with it.
Posted By: NSBiz

Re: Problem with Chatroom Logins? - 04/29/07 03:44 AM

I was a programmer for over 10 years in a different life. I know exactly what the prob and fix is. If you need some help please feel free to drop me a line, its the very least I can do. Without this site I would have been lost and most likely never applied for my apprentice electrician license.
Posted By: Check Pilot

Re: Problem with Chatroom Logins? - 05/04/07 10:44 PM

I am still getting booted off the browser when I try to log on to the Chat Room. Whenever I try to log into the chat, the whole browser closes completely. This is happening with both firefox and explorer.

I e-mailed Bill with a username and password but so far, no luck. Am I doing something wrong?

Of course, maybe the guys in the chat room don't want me there any more :-)?
Posted By: Admin

Re: Problem with Chatroom Logins? - 05/05/07 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by Check Pilot
I am still getting booted off the browser when I try to log on to the Chat Room. Whenever I try to log into the chat, the whole browser closes completely. This is happening with both firefox and explorer.

I e-mailed Bill with a username and password but so far, no luck. Am I doing something wrong?

Of course, maybe the guys in the chat room don't want me there any more :-)?
CP,

I can't make changes to that database myself, but it looks like my (your) request was carried out but I wasn't notified.

Try it now with the info you sent me. I tried it and logged in there fine using it.

If you can't get in there now it may mean you have something wrong with your java or some settings on your Computer

Bill
Posted By: hypress

Re: Problem with Chatroom Logins? - 07/10/07 02:28 AM

IF a person has desire and works at it I think they could make it.
That is one thing appitude test do not measure is desire. I have taken several appitude tests to go to work for companies and they tell me that that I do not have what it takes to be an electrician because I donot understand about square pegs and round holes. Well my phone rings in the middle of the night they dont ask if I know about square pegs and round holes or if I have read Shakesspear or if I can do X and Y and Greek math they could care less they just the problem fixed. I was working as a contractor in a large chemical plant and over heard two managers talking about the recent hires not being able to do the jobs and they agreed that all the HR department would hire was people who could pass the appitude test.
Posted By: hypress

Re: Problem with Chatroom Logins? - 07/10/07 02:35 AM

To webmaster I was not paying attention where I was posting I was replying to reply to Big B post about what it takes to be a electrician.Is there anyway you can move my post THANKS HYPRESS
Posted By: Admin

Re: Problem with Chatroom Logins? - 07/11/07 10:00 PM

Hypress,

I may be missing something, but I don't see any way to move a single post from one thread to another. It would be easier if you copied your post and made a new reply to the proper thread. I could then delete the one made here by mistake.

Bill
Posted By: Check Pilot

Re: Problem with Chatroom Logins? - 08/04/07 05:32 AM

I posted this on the other forum as well an I'm hoping I might get a bit of advice. Thanks.

I still get kicked out of both firefox and IE whenever I try to log onto the chat room. Both of the browsers just simply quit like they are closed. Does anyone have any ideas about my settings before I have to call the geek at about $100.00 per call?
Posted By: Trumpy

Re: Problem with Chatroom Logins? - 08/04/07 06:23 AM

Dave,
What version of Java are you using?.
Seems like you may need an update.
Failing that, I would contact Bill and reset your password.
Posted By: Trumpy

Re: Problem with Chatroom Logins? - 08/04/07 07:20 AM

Guys,
If you've ever got a problem getting into the Chat rooms here, before e-mailling Bill, please check the following:
  • If you have recently changed your password as an ECN Member, please make sure that you also changed your Chat login password to be the same as your ECN password, this saves confusion.
  • Those of you that use Firefox and have in the past used the "Password Remember" feature, need to be aware that the password can be forgotten, click on Tools in Firefox, Options>Passwords, if that is not what you entered, set it so that it is, ie: make it so that the stored password in Firefox and your ECN Forum/ Chat room passwords are all the same.
  • Please keep your Java up to date, our Chat room uses Java as the running application, if your Java is old, you can have all sorts of problems accessing our Chat rooms or even staying connected to the chat rooms.
  • BTW, you need to have Java Runtime Environment installed on your computer for the Chat room to work in the first place, if you haven't got it, get it. grin
    Please find the latest updates at Java.com.

Any thoughts you guys may have or whatever, would be most welcome, please feel free to add them below.
Cheers,
Mike. smile
Posted By: Check Pilot

Re: Problem with Chatroom Logins? - 08/04/07 05:20 PM

Mike,

Thanks for the link to the new java installation site. I installed it and now everything is working just fine.

Thanks again.

Dave
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