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Difference between "Electrical Room" and "Clothes Closet"? #96828
12/31/05 04:27 PM
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Electrical panels are prohibited in clothes closets. In commercial construction, it is very common to have panels located in an "Electrical Room." Presumably, one can also have an Electrical Room in a residence, even if it's rarely done because home builders will find a cheaper way to do it. Other than the obvious difference that a closet has shelves and clothes bars, how does an AHJ who is reviewing residential plans for permits distinguish between an electrical room and a closet with a panel? Is it just the label on the plans, or is there more to it than this?

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Re: Difference between "Electrical Room" and "Clothes Closet"? #96829
12/31/05 05:01 PM
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It come down to what it is designated on the plans.

How come you can turn an Elec Rm into a closet (fill it full of junk)but not a closet into an Elec Rm.

Re: Difference between "Electrical Room" and "Clothes Closet"? #96830
12/31/05 07:14 PM
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Because you don't need a permit to install junk?

steve


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Re: Difference between "Electrical Room" and "Clothes Closet"? #96831
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Doesn't a electrical room have fire rated doors and walls? I know the closet in my house doesn't.

Re: Difference between "Electrical Room" and "Clothes Closet"? #96832
12/31/05 09:37 PM
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I write "not a clothes closet" on the plans for any closet that a panel or subpanel may be placed in.

Re: Difference between "Electrical Room" and "Clothes Closet"? #96833
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A closet with a panel WILL be filled with junk. An electrical room that can only be used for electrical is only deep enough for the panel.
Residential inspectors know this, but they cannot really enforce the clear space rules. It is a Bill of Rights right to protection from unreasonable search by any governmental agency, which includes the local building official.

Until George W. Bush takes away all our rights to privacy, there will be junk stored in front of electrical panels. [Linked Image]


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Re: Difference between "Electrical Room" and "Clothes Closet"? #96834
01/01/06 12:21 PM
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A young boy once asked a game warden "When do Deer become Elk?" His answer was "The first day of Deer season."

So when does an electric room become a clothes closet? As soon as the inspector leaves...

Re: Difference between "Electrical Room" and "Clothes Closet"? #96835
01/01/06 02:16 PM
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GWB knows whats in my closet?

Re: Difference between "Electrical Room" and "Clothes Closet"? #96836
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Earlydean, leave the politics out of it.

Voice your political views else where pls.

It get's old...........


Dnk......

Re: Difference between "Electrical Room" and "Clothes Closet"? #96837
01/01/06 06:55 PM
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In this area the determination seems to be the plans, and if there is a rod for hangers.

Dave

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