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Overload? #95279
09/06/05 06:00 PM
09/06/05 06:00 PM
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jes  Offline OP
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15 Amp, 125 volt branch circuit with duplex 15 Amp, 125 volt receptacles. Plugged into a single duplex are two 6.5 Amp (nameplate) commercial referigerators, one into each position. For the sake of discussion there are no other loads. Does this violate ANY ratings or NEC requirements?

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Re: Overload? #95280
09/06/05 06:14 PM
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I would say no.
I believe a refrigerator is not a continuous load ( on for 3 or more hours). The compressor will cycle on and off but should not run continuous.

Re: Overload? #95281
09/06/05 07:27 PM
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Redsy  Offline
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210.21(B)(2)
If the "duplex" receptacle is considered 2 receptacles, (and I believe it is) you would have a violation.

Re: Overload? #95282
09/06/05 07:42 PM
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Roger  Offline
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Redsy, since this is in fact two receptacles, neither one would be loaded to the maximum limit of Table 210.21(B)(2) for a 15 amp receptacle.

Roger

Re: Overload? #95283
09/06/05 08:24 PM
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OK, so it's per each receptacle?

Re: Overload? #95284
09/06/05 09:40 PM
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George Little  Offline
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No overload, no violation but poor design. Just a matter of time before both units start at the same time and that could spell problem.


George Little
Re: Overload? #95285
09/08/05 04:27 AM
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jes  Offline OP
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And no argument...

To change the question slightly...
Suppose the duplex were split and each receptacle had it's own 15 Amp circuit.
A load of 12 Amps could be connected to each, giving a total current of 24 amps through a standard, everyday, less than $1, duplex receptacle, correct?

Re: Overload? #95286
09/08/05 05:50 AM
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iwire  Offline
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Yes that is correct.

Now how long would that cheap receptacle would last is another question altogether.


Bob Badger
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Massachusetts

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