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What would you do? #94188 07/13/05 07:16 PM
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Michigan code says the motor of a pool pump must be wired with rigid conduit. I have always used flex for vibration purposes. What would you do?

edited: http://www.ci.troy.mi.us/BuildingInspection/permits/Swimming%20Pool%20Regulations.pdf

page 5 4105.1 Also I am hard wiring, not cord and plug

[This message has been edited by MI Sparky (edited 07-13-2005).]


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Re: What would you do? #94189 07/13/05 07:21 PM
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OK, as I'm not from/in Michigan, I can comment on if your scenario was here(NJ)

The local codes have to be complied with.

John


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Re: What would you do? #94190 07/13/05 07:29 PM
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Yes I have to do that, kind of goes against what I like to do. Oh well cant argue against local codes! [Linked Image]


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Re: What would you do? #94191 07/13/05 08:57 PM
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It is against the law to plagiarize the code first of all and then when you read the Michigan Residential Code referenced in the Troy ordinance they have miss quoted it. Get you a copy of the MRC and see what it REALLY says at E4105.5 For those of you on this forum who don't have a MRC look in the IRC and it says the same thing as the MRC. Someone needs to challenge the inspector(s). You can tell them I said so because they both know me. This really ticks me off.


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Re: What would you do? #94192 07/13/05 09:06 PM
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And another thing Table E4102.1 Clearly identifies FMC as a wiring method for "Pool associated motors"

I feel much better now [Linked Image]


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Re: What would you do? #94193 07/17/05 06:32 PM
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George, with Troy's version of 4105.5, could the part that is underlined be an amendedment to the MRC?

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Re: What would you do? #94194 07/18/05 07:23 AM
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Actually Steve- The entire State of Michigan is subject to the same Code. I happen to have been on the committee that amended the IRC and thus produced the MRC. The City of Troy is not allowed by law to amend the MRC. My mentor used to tell me "George, tell em to show you in the book" and I think that a great way to handle any code issue.


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Re: What would you do? #94195 07/22/05 12:48 PM
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Hey George, Are you sure the local communities can't have something more strict than the MRC? I was under the impression that they couldn't have less but were allowed to enact more stringent regulations.

Re: What would you do? #94196 07/22/05 04:53 PM
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Absolutely sure of this one. I may need straightening out on a few code interpretations from time to time, but the State Electrical code is not amendable. Feel free to call the Electrical Board and confirm my statement [Linked Image]


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Re: What would you do? #94197 07/26/05 05:25 PM
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I trust you on this one. When did this take effect?

Larry


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