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Hallway Outlet Requirement (210.52H) #93908 06/23/05 04:17 PM
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This house has a walkway 36 inches wide , 12 feet long with railings (open) both sides. Open to floor 10 ft dn also both sides. Since nothing can ever be placed in this area. ???? Outlet required ????Owner says its a Balcony not hallway.

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Re: Hallway Outlet Requirement (210.52H) #93909 06/23/05 06:26 PM
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I don't find a definition for hallway in the 2002 or 2005 NEC. What does the AHJ call it?

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Re: Hallway Outlet Requirement (210.52H) #93910 06/23/05 07:27 PM
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In the building side of things, balconies are cantilevered without support on the cantilevered overhang. Sounds like a hallway to me. And even though nothing is placed in this "area" someone might want to plug in a vacuum.

Re: Hallway Outlet Requirement (210.52H) #93911 06/23/05 08:35 PM
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You could stick a floor outlet on your "Bridge", if need be.

Or maybe its a "Cat-walk"? (I like the sound of that!)

Other than that, is seems that it still counts as "wall-space".

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210.52(2) Wall Space. As used in this section, a wall space shall include the following:
(1) Any space 600 mm (2 ft) or more in width (including space measured around corners) and unbroken along the floor line by doorways, fireplaces, and similar openings
(2) The space occupied by fixed panels in exterior walls, excluding sliding panels
(3) The space afforded by fixed room dividers such as freestanding bar-type counters or railings

So if you call it a "hallway", you would need one. If not you might need 2-4...

Give your Inspector a call and see what he wants to call it.

I have had to put recepts along a circular interior "Balcony", because it was "wall space". I went back a year or so later, and figured they would never be used. Go figure there was a floor lamp in every one.


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Re: Hallway Outlet Requirement (210.52H) #93912 06/26/05 11:51 PM
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Go figure there was a floor lamp in every one.
"If you build it, they will come!"


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Re: Hallway Outlet Requirement (210.52H) #93913 06/27/05 02:05 AM
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LOL [Linked Image]


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Re: Hallway Outlet Requirement (210.52H) #93914 06/27/05 03:50 PM
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If you put outlets at both ends of that walkway (balcony/hall) then everywhere in that walkway is within 6 feet of an outlet (if it's 12 feet long), yes?

Re: Hallway Outlet Requirement (210.52H) #93915 06/28/05 12:11 AM
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Careful: Hallways do not fall under the 6' / 12' rule.

I'd put an outlet on either end of the hallway, or just one on one end. 210.52(H) will be satisfied. [Linked Image]


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Re: Hallway Outlet Requirement (210.52H) #93916 06/28/05 02:38 PM
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10 ft (OR MORE) so a hallway 15ft as such would require one outlet placed anywhere within that 15 ft. The way it reads. So if the walkway or (Hallway) extends even one ft. over on either side of that 12 ft. it would still be part of the hallway and the outlet would be legal placed there.Thats the way I read it. It does not state where in that over 10ft. hallway the outlet is required to be placed.

Re: Hallway Outlet Requirement (210.52H) #93917 06/28/05 09:48 PM
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Agreed. Even a 100' hallway would require only one receptacle, although I'd consider a couple more with vacuum-cleaner cord length in mind if it were my job.

I don't consider a catwalk to be a hallway. We recently did a large (over 7500 sq ft) house with a catwalk wide enough for a table; no receptacle needed.


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