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#92671 04/20/05 12:50 AM
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I think Don is right technically per the code, but I also think this is one of the more poorly writtens sections of the Code.

210.52(B)(1) says In the kitchen, pantry, breakfast room, dining room...the two or more 20-ampere small-appliance branch circuits...shall serve all receptacle outlets covered by 210.52(A)...

210.52(A) General Provisions. In every kitchen, family room, dining room, living room, parlor, library, den......

Is 210.52(B)(1) not self contradicting?

If someone had a 14 foot unbroken wall space, placed a 36" wide electric range/stove right in the middle, had a receptacle installed 6 inches from each end of the wall, would I make them install another receptacle somewhere in the middle of those two receptacles at least one foot inside of either one of them? Maybe.

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#92672 04/20/05 10:16 AM
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I submit that the space behind a free-standing stove does not constitute a "habitable room."

#92673 04/20/05 04:26 PM
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I submit that the space behind a free-standing stove does not constitute a "habitable room."
What about behind a big screen TV?
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Let's try another approach to show a recept servicing the area behind the stove ...

Assume we place a recept behind the stove and another 12' away. The recept "behind the stove" is inaccessible for all practical purposes. The recept "12' away" needs to service devices 9-11' away from it. Not quite in the spirit of the code.

The argument for a recept servicing the area behind the stove seems foolish.

#92675 04/20/05 10:11 PM
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The argument for a recept servicing the area behind the stove seems foolish.
I never said it made sense. I just don't find anything in the code that says the wall space behind a stove is not "wall space". Lacking a code rule to say that this is not wall space, 210.52(A)(1) applies.
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