ECN Forum Forums Code Related Discussion NEC & other Code issues Receptacle for Stove

Fine, Res, be that way. My kitchen is so narrow I consider it a "halway", so the 6 ft. rule doesn't apply :-)
And my offer stands: I'd like to see a stove installed with a convenience receptacle behind it. Pictures, please.

Assuming we have to put a receptacle above the kitchen sink to satisfy the 6 ft. wall space requirement, would we by code NOT be required to make it GFI protected???? It is NOT serving a countertop and it is NOT within 6ft of a BAR sink! Seems like the code did not intend for these outlets to be required behind a kitchen sink or behind the stove.

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me that I need a receptacle in the refrigerator space because the one I have installed in that space is 6' feet up the wall and doesn't qualify for the "required" wall space receptacle

George Little...most of the refridgerators that require the receptacle up high on the wall are fixed in the dedicated space. Also the counter plug to either side would probably be within the distance required by 210.52(A)(1)

shortcircuit

ps...interesting question on GFP and the generator

George,
Unless the refrigerator is fastened in place, the wall space behind it is covered by 210.52(A)(1). That does not mean that there must be receptacle directly behind it, but there must be one within 6' from any point on that wall space, measured horizontally along the floor line.
Don

Don- In in response to your requiring a receptacle behind my refrigerator, how am I going to ever use it? I know you are a very sharp code guy but you and I don't agree on this one because I don't see it as practical to install or ask the contractor to install a receptacle that can't or won't be used.

As a rule, I always install an outlet behind a free standing stove if they want it or not. Just an added perk. I agree it is not necessary if they have an electric range. What I do is install it with the above the range microwave circuit. The circuit will be dedicated to the range igniter(if needed) and the microwave. No big deal to add one outlet if I'm passing my wire in that space anyway. It is not serving the countertop, it is accessible, it is considered dedicated to a specific appliance if used, and if used the load would be negligable. And of course the local AHJ doesn't require it unless there is a gas stove.

Blessings,
Mark

George I also agree with shortcircuits comments. You bring some great questions to the forum.


What does practical have to do with the NEC?

I agree with Don that a receptacle must be within 6' of the rear of the range.

That said I have never seen one installed where not used by the range.

Bob

George,
What section of the code says that the wall space behind free standing appliances is not "wall sapce"???
Don

I guess you got me on that one Don. However, I see no hazard in not having a 120v.receptacle behind the stove if it's an electrric stove. If you do decide to put one there and they have no gas line installed I would look for it to be on the small appliance circuit.


[This message has been edited by George Little (edited 04-07-2005).]