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I know it is a tiny bit off topic but an AFCI <bedroom> receptacle is required to next to the panel. The intent was exactly what Bob is talking about. Retrofitting old panels.
In the case of GFCIs it is good design to have the receptacle in the room it controls but I am not sure where it is "code". Don't you ever see back to back bathrooms with counter receptacles fed from the GFCI in one of them?


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Bob,

Yup, the devil is in the details. I saw that after I posted. I was thinking that would be the only way to make it code compliant while feeding bath or kitchen circuits.

Yeah, I have tried to put GFCI's in small, overcrowded boxes. Just the other day, as a matter of fact. I use the "push and pray" method myself. [Linked Image]

I think most people in this area just use a GFCI circuit breaker if they want to add GFCI protection. As for old obsolete circuit breaker panels, I'm sure you know there are still supply houses in our area that carry original stock for them. [Linked Image] [Linked Image]


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Can anyone foresee people using AFCI receptacles mounted near the panel to supply circuits requiring AFCI breakers? Other then some retrofits, I can’t see why anyone would use an AFCI receptacle. This is probably why there are no AFCI receptacles on the market (that I know of).

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For old shallow gem box's we use a wire-mold box extension. While it does stick out a little it looks better than regular box extension. As far as the AFCI receptacles go, the 2005 addresses this and they should be available by 2008? [Linked Image]


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During an inspection a couple of weeks ago, I was reading the label on the Hydromassage motor and it specifically said "protect with a GFCI protected circuit"

That was the first (and last one) I saw that said that. The contractor pointed that out to me.


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chistmas plugs up high in soffits are another good example of remote gfci's.
then you can bring your load to where ever the switch is....of course you better keep that neutral seperate (if in multi-gang box)

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