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#91340 01/27/05 02:21 PM
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Are you saying everytime I plug something into a receptacle I have to apply "temporary power" rules?
I believe this would refer to plugging a cord into permanent building wiring and extending it to unfinished portions of the building.
Since my previous reply was directed to the OSHA rule, by your reasoning, the maid would need a GFCI adapter on her vacuum since she is protected by OSHA too.

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#91341 01/27/05 05:41 PM
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gfretwell,
No, 527 does not apply everywhere.
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527.6 Ground-Fault Protection for Personnel.
Ground-fault protection for personnel for all temporary wiring installations shall be provided to comply with 527.6(A) and (B). This section shall apply only to temporary wiring installations used to supply temporary power to equipment used by personnel during construction, remodeling, maintenance, repair, or demolition of buildings, structures, equipment, or similar activities.

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#91342 01/27/05 07:10 PM
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Very wll put Don. I agree withyou 100%


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#91343 01/27/05 10:37 PM
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I am just responding to the OP. His question said nothing about a construction site. He just said "inside". If this is in a warehouse, office or store I don't know of any GFCI requirement and if it is in a residence the "requirement" is even less likley (assuming he is not in the basement or garage where the nearest outlet should be GFCI anyway.)


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#91344 01/28/05 10:14 AM
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gfretwell,
If the extension cord is used for any of the following in any occupancy, then GFCI protection is required: "construction, remodeling, maintenance, repair, or demolition of buildings, structures, equipment, or similar activities".
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#91345 01/28/05 01:31 PM
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Don, If I use the strict intrepretation of that quote we are back to the maid's vacuum. Cleaning is certainly "maintenance".
I know we are rapidly approaching the time when AFCI and GFCI wil be on every circuit but I am not sure we are there now.


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#91346 01/28/05 05:51 PM
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I don't know if it is an OSHA rule or not but I remember seeing a tag on an extension cord that said you can not plug an extension cord into another extension cord.

#91347 03/10/05 06:20 PM
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I don't think we ever got to a conclusion on this one.
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:527.6 Ground-Fault Protection for Personnel.
Ground-fault protection for personnel for all temporary wiring installations shall be provided to comply with 527.6(A) and (B). This section shall apply only to temporary wiring installations used to supply temporary power to equipment used by personnel during construction, remodeling, maintenance, repair, or demolition of buildings, structures, equipment, or similar activities.
The language that I have high lighted with bold type would seem to limit the application to temporary wiring only. I still have not seen anything that requires that cords or tools supplied from the buildings permanent wiring system must have GFCI protection of personnel.
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#91348 03/11/05 10:12 AM
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Tom,
The extension cord itself is temporary wiring. If you are using 15 or 20A 125V circuits for "construction, remodeling, maintenance, repair, or demolition of buildings, structures, equipment, or similar activities", then GFCI protection is required. OSHA requires the GFCI protection at the line end of the extension cord. The cord itself requires GFCI protection if you are an employee doing any of the above.
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#91349 03/11/05 11:44 AM
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Somehow I missed this thread when originally posted.

I'd just like "chime in" and throw in my 2-cents.

Don you are correct, an extension cord is considered to be temporary wiring. If the tool or equipment is plugged directly into the wall receptacle, then a GFCI would not be required, but, an extension cord does require the protection.

As an aside MikeP never updated us on this situation, but, Greg may also be correct, which seems like a contradiction of my argument.

The reason Greg may be correct is that the OSHA construction standards are only applicable to activities similar to what Don referenced in his earlier post, which comes from the NEC. The OSHA definition of when this applies is:
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1926.32(g)

"Construction work." For purposes of this section, "Construction work" means work for construction, alteration, and/or repair, including painting and decorating.

Maintenance is excluded and is considered to be a General Industry activity and there aren't any similar GFCI requirements in the General Industry standards.

Having said that, it is possible (but unlikely) that a compliance officer may attempt to issue a General Duty Clause citation for failure to provide a workplace "free from recognized hazards." Recognition in this case could be the inclusion of the requirement in the NEC or 70E.

[This message has been edited by safetygem (edited 03-11-2005).]

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