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What if? There were two seperate circuits for say, 4 receptacles in the kitchen for the counter top. Now say, one of the circuits goes over to a receptacle in the dining room. Would that be OK?

Harold

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fine, 210.52(B)(1)
Kitchens,Pantry,Breakfast room,Dining room, or similar area


so...this would have to include my workvan right??...

hey, maybe this guy knows....?
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I am not an electrictian, but I do have a coppy of the 1999 ICC 1&2 family dwelling code.

Section 4401.5.6:

"Other receptical outlets provided in the rooms and areas specified shall be provided by the small appliance branch circuits or other branch circuits."

I suspect that is taken directly from the NEC. If so, then the "other branch circuits" can have lights on them.

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George,
That is not what the NEC says. The NEC requires all of the receptacle outlets in these rooms to be on the 2 or more small applinace branch ciruits.
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ICC one and two family 4401.4 states that the two or more small appliance circuits SHALL serve ALL receptacles in thees areas and have no other outlets I believe that this is very clear.
tom

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Certainly 4401.4 is clear in not allowing other branch circuits. Thus, there are no "other branch circuits" for 4401.5.6 to consider.

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Et All:
It has always been my unnerstanding that the small appliance circuits are to be unto themselves with no other outlets before them.
I have always put the kitchen lights on the general lighting circuit and dont have these problems, leastwise so say our local inspectors.
That is a separate circuit for the kitchen lighting, problem solved.
Just my opinion, and it works for me.

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I have another question, How about the hood? Can that go on the kitchen circuit?

Harold

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The hood can go on the kitchen lighting circuit but not one of the small appliance receptacle circuits. The blowers in hoods seem to be getting bigger these days and many of them have heat lamps so often is desirable to run a dedicated circuit just for the hood.


Curt Swartz
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