Regarding not putting kitchen lights and outlets on the same circuits, does that apply only to the countertop GFCI outlets, or also to general purpose convienence outlets on walls away from countertops and anything wet?
Not sure if I understand your post correctly. But any recep in the kitchen/dining are must be gfci protected. As for the lighting run a seperate circuit for it. As I am sure you will agree most clients/customers want there kitchens bright. Its better practice to run a seperate circuit just for that...
[This message has been edited by JMichael (edited 06-10-2002).]
Re: Kitchen Lights and Outlets On Seperate Circuits#80873 06/10/0209:13 PM06/10/0209:13 PM
I gotta read the NEC one of these days.. I am so used to the AHJ setting the standards.. In the Hamptons (Long Island, New York) The dining room also needs to be 20 amp GFCI protected. It can come off of the kitchen receps. But the dining room needs 2-20 amp gfci protected circuits. This is mainly due to the use of hot plates in the dining area's.
Re: Kitchen Lights and Outlets On Seperate Circuits#80876 06/10/0211:30 PM06/10/0211:30 PM
If a third circuit is present and does not serve the counter top area, it may serve light fixtures also.
I don't think so. Look at 210.52(B)(1). This section requires that all receptacles in the kitchen and related areas that are required to be installed by 210.52(A) or (C) be on the 2 or more small applinace branch circuits. Don(resqcapt19)
Re: Kitchen Lights and Outlets On Seperate Circuits#80879 06/13/0210:52 AM06/13/0210:52 AM
210.52.B is very clear in that any receptacle in the kitchen or dining room ( in either (A)general or (C) counters)MUST be on a small appliance branch circuit there must be at least 2 of these but may be many more. Also they shall have NO other outlets except clock or for a gas kitchen appliance. I feel that it is very clear that lighting may NOT be on any branch circuit with receptacles in any kitchen,pantry,breakfast room,dining room or similar area of a dwelling unit.
Re: Kitchen Lights and Outlets On Seperate Circuits#80880 06/13/0212:28 PM06/13/0212:28 PM
I have been taught, and it has always been my understanding that section 210.52b(1), only requires a total of two small appliance branch circuits for the entire kitchen/dining/etc. area combined. Not that it would be wise to only provide two for the entire area in most cases, but nevertheless still compliant.
Section 210.52b(2) makes it clear that these two or "more" small appliance branch circuits shall have no other outlets (with two exceptions). The way I see it, the word "more" in this sentence makes it clear that "all" receptacle circuits in these areas have no other outlets.