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#80721 05/14/02 04:55 PM
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Can a switch be within reach of a shower door/curtain?

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Sparky,
The code only says it can't be in the shower space. It is permitted to be within reach.
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404.4 Wet Locations.
A switch or circuit breaker in a wet location or outside of a building shall be enclosed in a weatherproof enclosure or cabinet that shall comply with 312.2(A). Switches shall not be installed within wet locations in tub or shower spaces unless installed as part of a listed tub or shower assembly.
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A rare case of our "code" being stricter than the NEC!

No switch here is allowed to be within reach of anyone in a bath or shower, unless it's a ceiling-mounted cord pull type.

'66 has a pic on his site of a switch within easy reach of someone in the tub.



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#80724 05/15/02 09:22 PM
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Paul, the pic you speak of was presented in a thread here as well.

Click Here!

What about sconce lights?

I've actually installed a pair of sconces in the tub space in the last two houses I've wired. It was in the plans, and I can't find anything in the NEC to prevent it. They are on GFCI protection, however.


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'66
Actually there is a code reference for your sconces actually not the sconces but in reference to :

(3) Bathroom Branch Circuits. In addition to the number of branch circuits required by other parts of this section, at least one 20-ampere branch circuit shall be provided to supply the bathroom receptacle outlet(s). Such circuits shall have no other outlets.

Exception: Where the 20-ampere circuit supplies a single bathroom, outlets for other equipment within the same bathroom shall be permitted to be supplied in accordance with 210.23(A).

.. So the sconces are ok, as far as I cant tell as long as it does not exceed 50 %(210-23)..

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Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is a sconce light? (I seem to be lost mid-Atlantic in terminology again!)

Virgil,
Completely off-topic....
Loved reading your happy/sad story about Murphy. I adore cats myself, and I know the feelings you go through when you loose such a friend.

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Paul,
it's generally considered a fixture ( luminare) that mounts to the wall instead of the cieling.....
[Linked Image from metrolighting.com]

there would seem a bit of confusion ( mostly on my part) as to the 'shower space' which is 8' above and 3' surrounding the tub rim, as opposed to the space within the shower itself.

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Thanks Paul, up to 6 dogs and 7 cats now, the pets section on my web site needs updated...

Dern critters are eatin' me out of house and home!

But I love 'em all...


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Wow, that's some managerie Virgil! Only one cat here at the moment; rescued him as a kitten in Ireland about 3 years ago. Lost another after nearly 9 years to a heart defect -- It's so heartbreaking.

I guess I should have looked up "sconce" in the dictionary before. According to my Concise Oxford version:

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sconce: n. Flat candlestick with handle; bracket candlestick to hang on wall [Middle English from Old French esconse lantern, or from medieval Latin sconsa from Latin absconsa fem. p.p. (as n.) of abscondere hide.]

O.K., I live and learn. It makes sense now.
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