ECN Forum Forums Code Related Discussion NEC & other Code issues Heater-Fan-Lite Combos

Bill, you get the credit for the fact that I now use #14 for lighting loads...

Heck, someday I might even use #14 for convenience receptacles (but a 15A breaker makes them "less convenient" in my opinion, subject to callbacks when the circuit is "overloaded"...)

Tom, I like the SPDT switch idea (not really a 3-way in that usage) for the nite-lite.

I had a call back once where I had to install a stacked (duplex) switch at a $7 loss because the Owner didn't want the 7W bulb burning 24-7.

Wish I had thought of the SPDT thing then...

The last few I've installed didn't have the nite-lites...(?!?)

Yes, Bill, I'm serious.
Kitchens too. It's Sunday, but I'll try to find the Code reference and post it ASAP.

They still sell (& I'd presume install) them here. I have one with a fluor retrofit lamp in it. (please don't call the authorities on me).
I ran dedicated circuit to a metal switchbox, and used 12-4/g type M/C cable up to the unit.


[This message has been edited by electure (edited 10-21-2001).]

electure, Nutone makes a fan/fluorescent light combo. It complies with the Title 24 requirement of fluorescent lighting in bathrooms and kitchens here in CA.

Once again, my foot is in my mouth!!
I received an e-mail (good) from "Ross" with this CA Title 24 excerpt:
"Each room containing a shower or bathtub shall have at least one luminaire with lamp(s) with an efficacy of 40 lumens per watt or greater. If there is more than 1 luminaire in the room, the high efficacy luminaire shall be switched at an entrance to the room."

Ross's interpretation of this, (as well as mine), is that there must be @ least 1 fluorescent fixture in a bathroom, and doesn't prohibit the use of incandescent lights in addition to the fluorescent.
Kitchens are a different deal altogether.
Thanks, Ross.
(me & my big mouth)
Welcome to Bill in LA!
Bill, is this unit also available with a heater? (my Nutone catalog is a dinosaur)

[This message has been edited by electure (edited 10-23-2001).]

That makes more sense now. I couldn't see how Californian ladies could get their makup on straight with just a dinky fluorescent light over the vanity. (Unless the hype is all true and they don't need it? ) It's probably not a very flattering light to skin-tones either, is it?

Bill

To All:
I cant believe what I just read on a heat/vent/light/night light combo, at least in my area and in the code two cables run to this unit would be gigged immediately.
Via 300-3(b) all conductors of the same circcuit and where used, the neutral and all wquipment grounding conductors shall be contained with in the same raceway, cabletray,trench, cable or cord.,,,
12-4 or 12-5 MC works nicely on these units.

bordew,

I had read the same thing. That was part of my reason for asking the question. I've never seen them wired with one cable though.


Bill

Bordew,
If the heater is on a different circuit from the light&fan, why could you not run 2 cables?

Yeah, I thought the heater would *have* to be dedicated, considering its load (1500W)...

It is continuous, unless there's a timer, I suppose...(?)

I've got a dedicated 20amp circuit to mine, with a 15 min. spring-wound timer for the heater.
If a guy has 2 circuits to the unit, then there shouldn't be a problem with 2 cables, should there?
BTW, Nobody makes 12-5 MC cable that I know of. AFC makes "home run cable" that comes in 6 and 8 conductor configurations, but generally MC is available in 2, 3, or 4 conductor.