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Code question on service entrance cable #78653
10/18/01 05:15 PM
10/18/01 05:15 PM
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Nightwizard  Offline OP
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Edison,NJ,USA
Is there any section in the NEC that gives a measurement for when your entering a single family dwelling as to when you would have to put a disconnect other that a main breaker and run SER cable to the panel. If so could u direct me to the article #.

Thanks

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Re: Code question on service entrance cable #78654
10/18/01 06:22 PM
10/18/01 06:22 PM
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Welcome Nightwizard!
check out 384-16
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Re: Code question on service entrance cable #78655
10/18/01 06:40 PM
10/18/01 06:40 PM
sparky66wv  Offline
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Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 2,236
West Virginia
I'm completely flustered now... Trying to find the "25 foot rule" to no avail...

Grrrrr....

I can see it plain as day in my head... "if service entrance cable exceeds 25' a disconnect is required.." or something to that effect...

D***ed if I can find it...

And I want to be an inspector? Yeah, right!...

In my defense, Allegheny Power wants a disco for anything not "back to back" so I haven't had a chance to use this exception to my advantage...

I thought Steve beat me to it, but it ain't there either...

I'm imagining code again aren't I?!?!?! [Linked Image]


-Virgil
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Re: Code question on service entrance cable #78656
10/18/01 07:10 PM
10/18/01 07:10 PM
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resqcapt19  Offline
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There is no specific distance in the code. See 230-70(a).
Don(resqcapt19)


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Re: Code question on service entrance cable #78657
10/18/01 07:13 PM
10/18/01 07:13 PM
sparky66wv  Offline
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West Virginia
Not in the '96 either... OK time to go with the nice people in the nice white coats, take my nice meds and go to the nice rubber room...

(driving me nuts)

If I had the money, I would offer a large sum of it to the person who finds how I got such a rule in my head?!?!?!?!!?!?

I hate it when I know the answer but can't find it, only to find out that it never existed!!!!!

(sigh)


-Virgil
Residential/Commercial Inspector
5 Star Inspections
Member IAEI
Re: Code question on service entrance cable #78658
10/18/01 07:19 PM
10/18/01 07:19 PM
sparky66wv  Offline
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Posts: 2,236
West Virginia
Okey-dokey

Bubububububbububububububububububububb
(burbling my lips)

Looks like I need to forget everything that Hixson taught me...

Wow.


-Virgil
Residential/Commercial Inspector
5 Star Inspections
Member IAEI
Re: Code question on service entrance cable #78659
10/18/01 08:13 PM
10/18/01 08:13 PM
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pauluk  Offline
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Norfolk, England
Virgil:

If it'll make you feel any better, we have a 2 meter / 6 foot specification here for meter-to-panel cables.

Then again, that probably won't make you feel any better at all.....

Re: Code question on service entrance cable #78660
10/18/01 08:46 PM
10/18/01 08:46 PM
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Redsy  Offline
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Bucks County PA
230-70(a)--- "nearest the point of entrance of the service conductors"

I say if it's further than 6', check with AHJ.

Re: Code question on service entrance cable #78661
10/19/01 08:41 AM
10/19/01 08:41 AM
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tdhorne  Offline
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Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 345
Maryland, USA
Some inspectors take the nearest rule to extremes. An inspector once gave me grief when I went in the bottom of a basement mounted panel instead of the top. I like to try to keep the service entry conductors and the branch circuit conductors separated. If they were available here I would use Canadian style service entry equipment that has a separate dead front for the supply conductors and their termination. I guess I just don't like the idea of of the home owner working in the same compartment as the service conductors.


Tom Horne

"This alternating current stuff is just a fad. It is much too dangerous for general use" Thomas Alva Edison
Re: Code question on service entrance cable #78662
10/19/01 03:26 PM
10/19/01 03:26 PM
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Fred  Offline
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Straughn, IN 47387
In my area the utilities and the AHJ agreed on 6' a long time ago. In Indianapolis, it's up to 10' if the service entrance conductors are in an unbroken joint of galv rigid.

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