ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
ShoutChat Box
Recent Posts
You will never guess
by Bill Addiss - 02/24/21 04:45 PM
Lock-down Thread
by Bill Addiss - 02/24/21 04:40 PM
New tool
by SMOKEYBOB - 02/15/21 04:59 PM
Split Bus Breaker Panel
by gfretwell - 02/15/21 02:30 PM
Sierraplex recpts
by gfretwell - 02/15/21 02:27 PM
New in the Gallery:
Facebook follies, bad wiring
FPE in Germany pt.2
Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 23 guests, and 18 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Receptacles, radial or daisy chain? #75577 03/05/07 08:12 AM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 329
I
IanR Offline OP
Member
I have a collegue who is doing a rewire on an old house (1928) The receptacles are all having new runs made to replace the old K&T with 12/2 romex. He wants to run a circuit from the new panel (a beautifully done 200amp center) into a juntion box in the ceiling above the den and then run individual runs out of the box to each outlet (4 total) in a radial fashion. I personally have never seen this, as I am used to the daisy chain method. I was wondering how you all felt about this? While I can't see anything inherently wrong with this, I wonder,is it allowable by the code. I have not seen it directly prohibited, but I may have just missed it. Opinions?

[This message has been edited by IanR (edited 03-05-2007).]

[This message has been edited by IanR (edited 03-05-2007).]

Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades
Re: Receptacles, radial or daisy chain? #75578 03/05/07 08:17 AM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 806
N
NJwirenut Offline
Member
Nothing wrong with it, as long as that ceiling junction box is accessible after finish (blank cover?).

It may be the case that it is easier to fish wires from the walls into the ceiling space than to drill the studs and fish wire along the walls from box to box.

Re: Receptacles, radial or daisy chain? #75579 03/05/07 08:20 AM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 329
I
IanR Offline OP
Member
That is what he tells me. The old plaster walls are in good shape and they do not want to cut them up to run the new wires.

[This message has been edited by IanR (edited 03-05-2007).]

Re: Receptacles, radial or daisy chain? #75580 03/05/07 08:21 AM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 329
I
IanR Offline OP
Member
Thanks for the quick reply.

Re: Receptacles, radial or daisy chain? #75581 03/05/07 08:59 AM
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 777
B
BigB Offline
Member
That's how the older brick homes are wired wher I live. The home runs are all to the ceiling boxes, from there the receps are fed. Of course there are not a lot of receps.

Re: Receptacles, radial or daisy chain? #75582 03/05/07 09:55 AM
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 482
Z
Zapped Offline
Member
I've used both methods and actually prefer the "radial" that you mention, granted there is adequate access and work space in an accessible attic space where the junction is located. I even put a box above each room or area and then "spider" out from there when appropriate.

You'd be surprised how much easier finish is when you have only one cable coming into each outlet box. I personally find that the time savings in finish make-up out weighs the time it takes to screw in a box and install a few romex connectors.

Re: Receptacles, radial or daisy chain? #75583 03/05/07 11:00 AM
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,568
G
gfretwell Offline
Member
Just make sure that box is big enough. You are talking about 11 conductors if I read this right. Add a couple more if this has a switch leg. You also have 5 whites under that big "cludge" nut. Electrically this is fine but mechanically it can be a chore to get this all back in there.


Greg Fretwell
Re: Receptacles, radial or daisy chain? #75584 03/05/07 05:41 PM
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 169
S
steve ancient apprentice Offline
Member
I also prefer this method. As the other person stated just be sure the box is big enough to handle the fill calculation. I find it much easier to run the cables and fish them thru the old plaster walls. I do not do much residential work but as long as the box is assessable (forgive my lousy keyboard skills) and big enough you will find this is a very simple way of doing this. Ive even done it on a new house. Once the boss saw what I did he liked it. Very neat and professional. et us know how this turned out.
Steve

Re: Receptacles, radial or daisy chain? #75585 03/05/07 07:56 PM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 329
I
IanR Offline OP
Member
Next time I am up that way I will try to take some shots of the finished work and post them here.
Thanks for all of the replies.

[This message has been edited by IanR (edited 03-05-2007).]

Re: Receptacles, radial or daisy chain? #75586 03/05/07 11:03 PM
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 362
Obsaleet Offline
Member
Keep in mind if the attic above could ever be finished these junction boxes will be a problem. I have dealt with this before and it can be a pain to get them outa the way.
Ob


Choose your customers, don't let them choose you.
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3

Featured:

2020 National Electrical Code
2020 National Electrical
Code (NEC)

* * * * * * *

2020 Master Electrician Exam Preparation Combos
2020 NEC Electrician
Exam Prep Combos:
Master / Journeyman

 

Member Spotlight
noderaser
noderaser
Portland, Oregon, United States
Posts: 404
Joined: March 2007
Show All Member Profiles 
Top Posters(30 Days)
Popular Topics(Views)
275,348 Are you busy
209,214 Re: Forum
196,517 Need opinion
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3