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Re: Press On Connectors #74297 01/20/07 11:54 AM
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I have used them frequently on light fixtures, espically in commercial installs where i've wired 200+ 2x4 fixtures. I use them now in my own business, however I have to agree with 1000BaseT, it is a hard conceptual leap to make a splice you know is going to carry a large current or a 3 wire neutral and not see the splice is nice and tight.

I'm sure I'll cross that hurdle at some point, but for now I use them on fixtures and low load splices.

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Re: Press On Connectors #74298 01/20/07 12:23 PM
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I didn't realize that I would open such a can of worms with my question, but I appreciate all of the interesting (and informative)comments.

Re: Press On Connectors #74299 01/20/07 12:33 PM
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Some splices *are* more important than others. It's easy to see when you think about the consequences of a splice failure. I am so paranoid about open neutrals on 3 wire circuits, I should probably start soldering those.

Yes, the splices leading to an oxygen pump are more important than the ones heading to a video game.

But I will not agree that the common neutral of a is any more or less important than the hots.

A break in either is an unhappy customer and a call back.

Just because a neutral opens in a MWBC does not mean full line to line voltage will be applied to the equipment.

I have fixed open neutral that did not damage any equipment and I have fixed open neutrals that did 'zap' equipment. It depends on the circuit loading conditions.

I will probably end up using the push on connectors for more things as time goes buy out of nessity....it does not mean I really like them.


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Re: Press On Connectors #74300 01/20/07 04:42 PM
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Shhhhh! Back stabs are great, if they stopped using them, a large percent of our service calls would dry up.
This week was a good example of the wonders of back-stabs, as soon as the tempeture snaps, the calls start comming in.

"I will probably end up using the push on connectors for more things as time goes buy out of nessity....it does not mean I really like them."

Same here Bob, i have used them for ballast replacement connections, but on a down stream circuit, with unknown loads, don't think i like it.




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Re: Press On Connectors #74301 01/20/07 05:19 PM
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I've been using them since they came out ! although i do use more wire nuts than anything else on small connections(two wire) were i've had best experience with these is four or more wires.. eg.. old work when trying to clean up junction boxes. big splices just aren't that doable. I've used a pile of those six block connectors. best thing since sliced bread. no call backs on anything i've used them on.

i'm buyin... and they'r rated for 20 amps !!!


I have worked as an apprentice and on to a journeyman in a general construction company. 90% of what I do is residential. I have an associats degree in electrical technology. I have started my own buisness this year and am with out the help of other electricians. this is why i find this site so helpful.
Re: Press On Connectors #74302 01/20/07 05:22 PM
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I LOVE USING WAGO'S THEY ARE HANDY TO HAVE IN THE VAN FOR THOSE TIGHT SPOTS WHERE THE GUY BEFORE YOU DID NOT LEAVE ENOUGH WIRE HANGING OUT OF THE BOX.. ALSO THE BACKSTAB DEAL, IN THE 20 YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS STUFF I HAVE ONLY REPLACED 1 RECP THAT WAS BAD TO A BACKSTAB, AND THEN I BACKSTABED IT AGAIN... AND 1000BASET LOVE TO FLY TO, DO YOU RUN SINGLE ENGINE??

Re: Press On Connectors #74303 01/20/07 05:54 PM
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I've taken some apart, and the "dull (unsprung) side" is only about 1/16" wide.
They're great for ballast changouts, and fantastic for capping off unused wires.
I'll stick with wirenuts and a nice length of copper to copper connection otherwise [Linked Image].

Re: Press On Connectors #74304 01/20/07 06:18 PM
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Ok, I did a search of workorders, (Recpt. not working in some rooms) I was not able to go back 20 years, but i have 14 years, there were 237 calls, 235 were for back stab problems, one was for cracked recpt, face and another for side wiring loose.

Could it be your not getting call backs, because the customers are calling another EC for the repairs?

Re: Press On Connectors #74305 01/20/07 06:40 PM
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COULD IT BE YOU WERE USING RECPS MADE IN CHINA NOT THE USA?? SOUNDS LIKE ALOT OF CALL BACKS TO ME..

Re: Press On Connectors #74306 01/20/07 06:50 PM
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What call backs, none of them were our work! These are service calls we made.
I would never consider using them, I like my customers.

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