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tray ceiling up-lighting #72218
11/21/06 11:01 PM
11/21/06 11:01 PM
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Jps1006  Offline OP
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Northern IL
The big thing around here is putting light rope tucked inside of crown molding on a tray ceiling. I had a customer ask about it and I told her I don't like it because of the ugly yellow color and the fact it doesn't put out much light. She wants some alternative suggestions.

What are some good altermatives to get a better effect. I was thinking maybe single lamp T8's with a dimming ballast. The tray will be a bout 16" deep on the bottom, so maybe 8-12" deep up top.

What have you guys done and how did it work out?

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Re: tray ceiling up-lighting #72219
11/21/06 11:32 PM
11/21/06 11:32 PM
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Grayslake IL, USA
Juno Track 12 or halo simular but it can get costly once you add the transformer. I hate rope lighting too but you will never find an alternitive near it's low price. Here is all kinds:
http://www.ccl-light.com/docs/indoor/rope/index.html

I looked at the strip lights before but never installed them.

Re: tray ceiling up-lighting #72220
11/22/06 09:20 AM
11/22/06 09:20 AM
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TwinCitySparky  Offline
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Minnesota
These take some research and planning but they are thre cats meow!
http://www.luxeon.com/products/family.cfm?familyId=3

Re: tray ceiling up-lighting #72221
11/22/06 04:20 PM
11/22/06 04:20 PM
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Jps1006  Offline OP
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Northern IL
Thanks for the ideas guys. I'm open to the strip xenon in Tom's link. I'll price it.

Twin City, have you installed those (in your link) before? Do I need to build a circuit out of components or is it all plug & play? (or a little of both?)

Re: tray ceiling up-lighting #72222
11/22/06 07:57 PM
11/22/06 07:57 PM
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Gregtaylor  Offline
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Boise, Idaho, USA
Try linear lighting from luciferlighting.com.
Navigate to "light strips" and then get the spec sheet for linear lighting. Very easy to install, dimmable, NOT CHEAP.

Re: tray ceiling up-lighting #72223
11/23/06 10:43 AM
11/23/06 10:43 AM
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Minnesota
Jps

Yes, I have installed Luxeons before in marine, automobile and home applications. You can buy several different types of plug and play style circuit drivers/enclosures for these or build your own. Just Google them once. Phillips manufacturing makes Luxeon. They are the brightest LEDs available boasting a 100K hour life span (if properly heat-sinked). The backlighting application that you are looking at is a perfect apllication for the 1 watt Luxeon emitter. Use one of the "dimming" style drivers and space them about 10" apart. Without sounding too much like a salesman, I must say I beleive these are the future in lighting. The only problem right now is cost but, they are coming down in price every year. Cheapest I can find one "raw" 1 watt Lux. is at Future Electronics for $6.50 a piece. I've built 3 different portable work lights using these. One uses a 12 volt 7 amp hr. rechargable battery with 6 Luxeons. It is the perfect work flood light. It's very bright and lasts days without a charge. Every electrician who borrows it wants one. I am currently building one for a fellow sparky right now. Ok - I'll admit it, I'm a Luxeon freak. You will be too after you play with these for a while. John

Re: tray ceiling up-lighting #72224
11/23/06 10:48 AM
11/23/06 10:48 AM
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Minnesota
Almost forgot, you have to check out some of the photos in their application page...
http://www.luxeon.com/gallery/?filter=applications


Need I say more.

John

Re: tray ceiling up-lighting #72225
11/23/06 01:03 PM
11/23/06 01:03 PM
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denny3992  Offline
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orwigsburg,pa USA
try led rope lighting
http://www.ledlightworld.com/ledrope.html

many colors


Denny


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