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Flex 90 #68056
07/27/06 09:26 PM
07/27/06 09:26 PM
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Gregtaylor  Offline OP
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Situation- 1" EMT from an MCC to a motor with 4 90 degree bends in the conduit. Changed over to flex for 24" for final connection and used a flex 90 connector at the motor. The inspector turned down the job because he says that's 5 bends in the run. If that's the interpretation I can show him thousands of violations. Any thoughts?

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Re: Flex 90 #68057
07/27/06 09:44 PM
07/27/06 09:44 PM
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Roger  Offline
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Greg, unfortunately, per the pure wording of the conduit and tubing articles where it it states
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There shall not be more than the equivalent of four quarter bends (360 degrees total) between pull points, for example, conduit bodies and boxes.
the inspector is correct. You could use a condolet at the transition (if it stays accessible) and be compliant.

Roger

Re: Flex 90 #68058
07/27/06 10:06 PM
07/27/06 10:06 PM
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mister h  Offline
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erie, pa. usa
You may need to check out 358.26 in the NEC code. This is where the code violation was from.

Ken


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Re: Flex 90 #68059
07/27/06 10:11 PM
07/27/06 10:11 PM
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stamcon  Offline
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Roger, since you can't pull through a flex 90
*, should it be included as a bend between pull points? If there were 3 90* bends in the conduit and also the flex 90*, you still wouldn't be able to pull through the completed run. Just wondering...

steve


Steve
Re: Flex 90 #68060
07/27/06 10:47 PM
07/27/06 10:47 PM
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Roger  Offline
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Steve, very good point, and if I were the inspector I would conceed to your argument.

Roger

Re: Flex 90 #68061
07/28/06 06:56 AM
07/28/06 06:56 AM
electure  Offline

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Fullerton, CA USA
Why not just use one of the 90° flex fittings with the sliding cover?
Try a Regal 9674
It adds 0° to your run.

Re: Flex 90 #68062
07/28/06 02:54 PM
07/28/06 02:54 PM
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Celtic  Offline
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Greg, unfortunately, per the pure wording of the conduit and tubing articles where it it states

:There shall not be more than the equivalent of four quarter bends (360 degrees total) between pull points, for example, conduit bodies and boxes.

the inspector is correct. You could use a condolet at the transition (if it stays accessible) and be compliant.

Roger

...BUT, the flex 90 IS a pull point [Linked Image]

[This message has been edited by Celtic (edited 07-28-2006).]

[This message has been edited by Celtic (edited 07-28-2006).]


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Re: Flex 90 #68063
07/28/06 03:17 PM
07/28/06 03:17 PM
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gfretwell  Offline

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How about all the "degrees of bend" in the flex whip? Does that count too?


Greg Fretwell
Re: Flex 90 #68064
07/28/06 08:17 PM
07/28/06 08:17 PM
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Gregtaylor  Offline OP
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My view is that the 90 degree connector WITH A REMOVABLE BACK is a pull point just like an LB would be. I did not pull wire through it along with the other bends. I pulled out enough wire to reach the motor and fed that last 36" or so through the flex and through the connector. How many bends could there be in 24" of flex?

Re: Flex 90 #68065
07/28/06 10:12 PM
07/28/06 10:12 PM
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Peter  Offline
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San Diego
Maybe 300-18 [1999 Code] may help in this situation. "The raceway shall be permitted to be initially installed without a terminating connection at the equipment."
The handbook notes that this applies to a 90º connection to a motor.
In any case, a 90º connector is impossible to pull under any circumstances. They must be hand fed one wire at a time and it takes an hour.
Note: the degree symbol "º" is made by Alt + 167. On the number keys with Num Lock and Scroll Lock on.
~Peter

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