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how tight do i tighten the lugs? #63346
03/13/06 11:39 PM
03/13/06 11:39 PM
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Clydesdale  Offline OP
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How tight do I tighten the lugs down on a 4/0 Aluminum service conductors? Or for that matter...any lugs? I have heard it has to be 20lbs PSI...but not sure...anyone?

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Re: how tight do i tighten the lugs? #63347
03/13/06 11:48 PM
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Maybe you mean foot pounds, inch pounds, or nuton meters.

Torque wrench.

I don't know any defult torque numbers if you can't find manufactures specs.

Re: how tight do i tighten the lugs? #63348
03/14/06 12:16 AM
03/14/06 12:16 AM
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Clydesdale  Offline OP
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yeah. foot pounds.thanks. I will check out some manufacturers' websites for some info..

thanks

Re: how tight do i tighten the lugs? #63349
03/14/06 03:21 AM
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Usually listed in most equipment labeling, and sometimes on the lug itself.


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Re: how tight do i tighten the lugs? #63350
03/14/06 09:36 AM
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It is all dependent on the size and what it is made of (steel, zinc, etc). I found a chart years back that had standard tightening torques, per types and sizes, you might find something like that. Of course, manufacturers recommendations are always best.

Re: how tight do i tighten the lugs? #63351
03/14/06 10:48 AM
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A little quibble...it's "pound inches'...not 'inch pounds.

Otherwise, unless the connector is marked differently, here are the values UL uses:
Slotted scrw head..50 pound inches

Hex or socket head...250 pound inches

Split bolt...500 pound inches.

This information is also published in |Ferm's Fast Finder"....which is probably the ultimate NEC index. Available from the IAEI and NFPA.

Re: how tight do i tighten the lugs? #63352
03/14/06 01:00 PM
03/14/06 01:00 PM
Tom  Offline
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Everyone left out the most important torque range called "erks." This is the sound the fastener makes just before breaking or stripping out. :-)

Most meter sockets have a label that states the torque value. Sometimes for the breaker it is marked on a label in very small type or is embossed into the body of the breaker, both of which are hard for us older guys to read.


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Re: how tight do i tighten the lugs? #63353
03/14/06 01:43 PM
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The "erk" brings up an interesting point. Generally torque specs are based on a lightly oiled fastener. The "erk" is actually the galling of a dry fastener in the threads. Is there a listed lubricant for these fittings?
Friction in the threads could wildly alter the actual clamping force at any given torque, particularly in a termination that has been oxidizing for a while. (In use or on the shelf)


Greg Fretwell
Re: how tight do i tighten the lugs? #63354
03/14/06 02:00 PM
03/14/06 02:00 PM
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George  Offline
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Clydesdale ---

I think pressure (psi) is the best measure but since we have screw fasteners we are limited to measuring torque. Torque is a poor measure. Being affected by lubrication, finish, and dirt.

Re: how tight do i tighten the lugs? #63355
03/14/06 04:01 PM
03/14/06 04:01 PM
togol  Offline
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gfretwell,

I have used Naptha, MineralSpirits, charcoal starter...any clear solvent,
Diesel, Kerosene, just a little dab on the threads ...works like a charm

------

great for drilling and tapping too

[This message has been edited by togol (edited 03-14-2006).]


Tom
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