ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
Shout Box
Recent Posts
Ronald and Nancy Reagan in GE commercials
by Bill Addiss. 03/13/19 08:12 PM
Carflex in an RNC connector?
by gfretwell. 03/12/19 05:21 PM
Reverse-feeding transformer in PV system?
by HotLine1. 03/11/19 08:37 AM
Vintage stage lighting and equipment catalogs
by Albert. 03/09/19 06:21 PM
TJX Recalls Heating Pads
by Admin. 03/08/19 09:33 PM
New in the Gallery:
What is this for?
Plug terminals
Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 19 guests, and 7 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Wow - my saw is really efficiant today! #61886
02/04/06 01:59 PM
02/04/06 01:59 PM
e57  Offline OP
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 2,876
Showed up at a job to drop some pipe in a trench yesturday. So I set up, un-load all the material, lay out a cord to the spider box, and hop in the hole to cut off a stub-out to start my run. I pull the trigger on my saws-all and it kicks into over-drive turbo speed! Freaky fast! I say to myself, "Hey, thats not right..." So I go get my meter, and find that my cord is 240v! I go back to the spider box, and make sure I didn't accidently jamb it into the 30A outlet, which can happen easily if you have well worn plugs and outlets. Nope... I test the other outlets on the box. The 200/30 is only 120, and half of the 120's are 220v. The framers compressor goes (Fed from another box down the line) on and sounds like it's turbocharged, I then just un-plug the whole box. The whole job comes to a stop looking at me, so I tell 'em it'll be a few minutes I have to check something out. I then get the job Sup'er on my back asking why I shut off the power while I am checking the cords feeding the boxes. So I ask him if he noticed any tools getting damaged. He thinks a second, and then rifles off a list of drills, saws and other items over the course of three months when the project started. So I find it... The first cord cap had X and W reversed since day one.

One would figure that if someone uses the same tools everyday, that they would notice something odd over three months? Then again, that the ELECTRICIAN who wired that cord cap for site power would have checked his work? So now the company might get a sizable bill for the list of tools...

Mark Heller
"Well - I oughta....." -Jackie Gleason
Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades
Re: Wow - my saw is really efficiant today! #61887
02/04/06 02:51 PM
02/04/06 02:51 PM
Radar  Offline
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 349
Los Angeles, CA
Then again, that the ELECTRICIAN who wired that cord cap for site power would have checked his work?

Around here some of the very largest GC's who are too cheap to have the EC setup & maintain the temp power on big jobs do it themselves, partly with their laborers. I have seen this more than once.


There are 10 types of people. Those who know binary, and those who don't.
Re: Wow - my saw is really efficiant today! #61888
02/04/06 11:31 PM
02/04/06 11:31 PM
mxslick  Offline
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 803
Atomic City, ID USA
Worked an install many years ago where the laborers kept pluging in the merc vapor temp lights into the 220 twistlock. The ballasts and caps burned with the most repulsive stench!!

Problem is, I have yet to see any spider box design that can truly stand up to the abuse by the folks on an average jobsite. I thought about trying to design one, but gave up when I realized that it would set me back at least $2,000 for the prototype and the manufactured costs would readily top $1,000 per unit.

Stupid should be painful.


2017 Master Electrician Exam Preparation Combos
2017 NEC Electrician
Exam Prep Combos:
Master / Journeyman


Member Spotlight
Penn USA
Posts: 31
Joined: December 2011
Show All Member Profiles 
Top Posters(30 Days)
Admin 11
Albert 3
Popular Topics(Views)
253,846 Are you busy
190,306 Re: Forum
180,002 Need opinion
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1
(Release build 20180101)
Page Time: 0.021s Queries: 14 (0.005s) Memory: 0.9532 MB (Peak: 1.0771 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2019-03-19 10:48:24 UTC