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power to a bussiness sign #61831
02/02/06 11:54 PM
02/02/06 11:54 PM
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nov  Offline OP
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I need to get power out to a pole sign in front of a bussiness. The sign and two parking lot lights were feed from an under ground pipe run that was crushed or broken years ago. Owner who is a friend of mine does not want to cut the concrete and have to patch it. I was think of going over head with triplex. It is only about 25-30 feet from the building. Would this be the way to go or sould I tell him that he has to cut the pavement. I have never done a I set up like this over head. If it was not a friend I would suggest someone else, I still may do that though.

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Re: power to a bussiness sign #61832
02/03/06 01:22 AM
02/03/06 01:22 AM
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Rich R  Offline
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Florida
If he wants to spend the money you do a directional bore underground where the asphalt/pavement wouldn't be disturbed. Around here most companies that sub that type of work charge $10/foot or a $400 minimum. They even install a pull string for us in the pipe.

This is assuming you have some sort of grass or dirt area for them to bore to and from

[This message has been edited by Rich R (edited 02-03-2006).]

Re: power to a bussiness sign #61833
02/03/06 09:05 AM
02/03/06 09:05 AM
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nov  Offline OP
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no grass or dirt
concrete and pavement all the way

Re: power to a bussiness sign #61834
02/03/06 01:13 PM
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mhulbert  Offline
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Anaheim, CA USA
If he wants the ulginess of OH wires, you can do that. I've run a few OH spans, but they were all with the help of a lineman friend of mine. He had the tools, mainly the Klein cable grip, and a truck full of preforms, insulators, tree standoffs, etc. I ran pipe up to weather heads on both ends of the drops, and we used crimps as open air splices. Remember taht you shouldn't use the bare messenger cable as neutral, it will be your ground.

Re: power to a bussiness sign #61835
02/03/06 08:58 PM
02/03/06 08:58 PM
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LoneGunman  Offline
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Florida
I dont see what the big deal is about cutting and patching 25' of concrete. Ever see the little trenching shovels that are only like 2" wide? Thats what Id use. A 3" cut is not going to be hard to patch.

Re: power to a bussiness sign #61836
02/04/06 12:35 AM
02/04/06 12:35 AM
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Clydesdale  Offline
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rent a gas saw with concrete blade. zip 2 lines, chip out. then take large hilti hammer drill, and dig trench. done..
you already knew that though.

Re: power to a bussiness sign #61837
02/04/06 11:26 PM
02/04/06 11:26 PM
mxslick  Offline
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Atomic City, ID USA
Just wait 'till the first tall vehicle comes thru and snags the overhead, pulling down the drop and possibly the sign. [Linked Image]

C'mon, I've cut 30' plus to drop in pipe before, it's not a big deal. [Linked Image]

Some city sign ordinances may not allow an overhead feed anyway.


Stupid should be painful.

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