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Bent MCC #6166
12/24/01 12:12 PM
12/24/01 12:12 PM
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SPARKSALOT  Offline OP
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Omak, WA, USA
I perform electrical maintenance at a large commercial site for a subcontractor. I was told to move some EMT going to a small contactor box to the side so that a wall could be put up. The client asked me to hurry and not to worry about appearance because the wall would hide the box. To make a long story short to do this I ended up having to slightly distort the top of the box to make the conduit line up. My jerk boss doesn't like me and filed a discipline report stating "willful destruction of property". Question, is there any NEC or other rules that govern this very slight distortion of an electrical box?
Don

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Re: Bent MCC #6167
12/24/01 12:35 PM
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aphares  Offline
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Physical damage plays a large role into the NEC. One that comes to mind off the top of my head is. (110.12) Electrical equipment shall be installed in a neat and workman like manner.

Re: Bent MCC #6168
12/24/01 01:00 PM
12/24/01 01:00 PM
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SPARKSALOT  Offline OP
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I know, it bothered me to do it that way too. But as I said, I was hurried and the client said he didn't care about the appearance. Also, it was already somewhat distorted by the guy before me, probabaly because he also had clearance problems too. I won't let them hurry me again like that but for now it's more of the problem of whether I actually violated code.
Don

Re: Bent MCC #6169
12/24/01 01:20 PM
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I don't think you have a leg to stand on. Sorry. (110.12)(C). read it...I can't seem to find it, but at one time there was a section in the code where, and I can't quote it, Stated these rules shall be followed regardless of time, cost, or being efficient. (We are the professionals in our trade not the customers.)

Re: Bent MCC #6170
12/24/01 01:29 PM
12/24/01 01:29 PM
Joe Tedesco  Offline
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http://www.osha-slc.gov/OshDoc/Fact_data/FSNO95-44.html

Sounds like a possible lost equipment grounding conductor!

Turn the boss into OSHA using their Hot Line above. You can always cite Section 110-3(a)8 in the NEC as well.

You too, should have stopped doing what could be considered illegal if you are a qualified person as defined in the NEC. I believe the Judge and Jury would find you at fault though if there was an accident that could be associated with the lack of concern for the safety of others.

Let the ECHO chime in next!


Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant
Re: Bent MCC #6171
12/24/01 01:41 PM
12/24/01 01:41 PM
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SPARKSALOT  Offline OP
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Omak, WA, USA
You're right, that's a lesson hard learned. My boss likes to keep everyone on edge about their jobs and what I didn't agree with was the phase "willful destruction". I only had to "muscle" the EMT about 1/2" and I don't think I added significantly to the distortion of the box. But I didn't feel good about the results either. I should have insisted on changing out the encloser or getting my supervisor to sign off on the existing damage. One lesson I won't forget.
Don

Re: Bent MCC #6172
12/24/01 04:11 PM
12/24/01 04:11 PM
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"Contactor box", and "hidden by the wall" sound a little scary.
Is there still a proper working clearance in front of the box?? (Good old NEC110.26 again)
If not it has to be relocated (again) anyway or the wall has to be moved.
Your boss sounds like a %$^@*~.

[This message has been edited by electure (edited 12-24-2001).]

Re: Bent MCC #6173
12/24/01 07:40 PM
12/24/01 07:40 PM
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SPARKSALOT  Offline OP
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Omak, WA, USA
The clearance is questionable. The wall is right next to the box and the door opens away form the wall which makes it even worse. The wall was added after my work and since my supervisor is the Electrical Administrator he is responsible for bringing things like that up. As to my boss.......
he was a Chief on a Navy submarine and I am sure the phase "I am God" is close to the surface of his mind. He really likes it when everyone trembles in his presense. I am looking for something else ASAP so I hope I don't have to deal with him much longer.
Don


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