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Re: Prevailing wages. #61630 01/30/06 09:16 PM
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renosteinke Offline
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You get "full rate" only if you are called an "electrician" by the employer. If he calls you a helper, a driver, and assistant, whatever- you don't get full scale "electrician" pay.

Trust me, I've seen this game played by overly clever employers. And the various agencies, whom you would expect to rely upon, have absolutely no interest in the issue.

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Re: Prevailing wages. #61631 01/30/06 09:35 PM
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hypress Offline
I worked for a fire alarm co they appealed the prevaling wage rate. The company said that it was speciality low voltage work and because there was to prevaling wage for that classification we were paid our normal rate of 5.50/HR.this was in the early 80's

Re: Prevailing wages. #61632 01/30/06 09:36 PM
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ShockMe77 Offline
That would be a damn shame to be working on a prevailing wage job and not get paid prevailing wages.

Re: Prevailing wages. #61633 01/30/06 11:42 PM
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stamcon Offline
Here is a pdf regarding NY prevailing wages.
Scroll down to Electrician and see what pay scales they show.


Re: Prevailing wages. #61634 01/31/06 08:01 AM
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mahlere Offline
so, if i'm reading that right, and I'd like to think I am, a 1st yr electrical apprentice should be making $22.66/hr total package?
2nd yr-$27.01/ht total package?

what if the kid can't figure out how to twist wires together correctly? what if he doesn't learn a blessed thing? Just spends all his time hiding in the corner? (Hide and Seek for a Grand A Week)

Re: Prevailing wages. #61635 01/31/06 10:21 AM
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BobH Offline
To the original poster. I don't know whether you are union or not, but if you're making 20 an hour as a helper, I would not complain. Albeit, if this particular contractor is committing fraud, he should be busted and prosecuted. You'd better find out the explicit facts before you act. You're the one responsible for making your own living. I know a lot of skilled people who would relish a 20 dollar an hour job. If you act and find out you're wrong, well in reality, you could screw yourself pretty bad if this contractor is vindictive and has influence. All I'm saying is find out the facts and think about it before you go making a stink.

Re: Prevailing wages. #61636 01/31/06 01:35 PM
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gfretwell Offline
I can see why journeymen are not flocking down here to work. It would be hard to find a $20/hr job if you were the big boss.
I do think some young guys might like spending the winter here for the $10-15 they pay. It would certainly be a crash course apprenticeship. If you are halfway good you could be the crew chief in a week or two.
Anyone who shows up with a rusty pair of Kliens, a screwdriver and a mouthfull of wirenuts can be an electrician.

Sad but true.

Greg Fretwell
Re: Prevailing wages. #61637 01/31/06 08:29 PM
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DSpanoudakis Offline OP
I'm not complaining one bit about my pay right now. I'm very greatful for it. But if I'm supposed to get something else, and someone is pocketing the extra, I have to say something, who wouldn't?

I'm still getting my information down, I'm not acting yet.

Re: Prevailing wages. #61638 01/31/06 09:48 PM
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LoneGunman Offline
I understand what you are saying BUT are you prepared to loose your job over it? Not saying it's right or fair but thats the way things work. Obviously he would not fire you right away but he could easily get rid of you in the future. He could also put the word out to other large contractors and make finding another decent job difficult. I'm not saying you should not fight for what you are suppose to get, just know the possable ramifications if you do.

Also, I don't think it's a good idea to have where you work in your profile, at least while this thread is open.

Re: Prevailing wages. #61639 01/31/06 10:25 PM
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luckyshadow Offline
You state you are a "Helper" ? On prevailing wage jobs there is no such position. In the electrical field you are one of three things , on prevailing wage projects. A Laborer , An Apprentice , Or a Journeyman Electrician. If your not enrolled in a recognized apprenticeship program you may be listed as a laborer. Check this out BEFORE raising heck with the boss. Take the time to check out ALL the facts, DO NOT go by hear say !!! This way if the boss is on the level you haven't made a fool of yourself and should the boss be "dealing dirty" you have all the needed information in which to hang him !
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