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PVC Conduit Shortage??? #57345
10/11/05 04:32 PM
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Partywaggin  Offline OP
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Tucson, AZ
I work for an electric cooperative as a subdivision distribution designer. All of our UD is placed in PVC conduit installed by the member or developer as the case may be with the cooperative installing the cables at a later date.

Here in AZ there is a significant shortage of 2", 2 1/2" & 3" PVC conduit in schedule 40 and DB-120 thickness.

Just curious if any of y'all on the other side of the meter are having issues sourcing PVC and if not, where the heck are you getting it, especially if you are in the Southwest?

If you are having issues, what alternatives are you employing? HDPE? Arnco "SmoothCor"? etc.

Thanks for the insights.

Wes

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Re: PVC Conduit Shortage??? #57346
10/11/05 04:46 PM
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iwire  Offline
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Apparently we are all going to have a hard time getting PVC.
https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006374.html

This was posted at another Forum.
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Update:
Lowes has no PVC conduit
4 " PVC 3 weeks ago was $90 per hundred
Today its $330 if you can get it...
due to a shortage of petrochemicals to make the resin, the PVC plants don't have power, Nat Gas has gone up in cost, no trucks to deliver.
Shortage expected to last until Jan.


Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician
Massachusetts
Re: PVC Conduit Shortage??? #57347
10/11/05 05:02 PM
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Amazingmg  Offline
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Florida, USA
I know. It feels strange actually worrying about PVC getting stolen off the jobsite.

Re: PVC Conduit Shortage??? #57348
10/11/05 05:08 PM
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Partywaggin  Offline OP
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Tucson, AZ
That's about what I figured. Thanks, guys.

What non-metallic alternatives are y'all using, if any?

Wes

Re: PVC Conduit Shortage??? #57349
10/11/05 08:32 PM
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harold endean  Offline
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Boonton, NJ
The supply house here in NJ just told me that the price of PVC just went up 18%. That is when you can find it. This what I am being told. If you were not a customer already, the bigger suppliers are not shipping to new customers. Anything that has petrol products in it might have the same problem. Much of the building supplies are heading down to the hurricane area and gas prices are killing everything else.

Re: PVC Conduit Shortage??? #57350
10/11/05 09:23 PM
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wa2ise  Offline
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Oradell NJ USA
Insulation on wire comes from an oil product. So expect increases there too... :-(

Re: PVC Conduit Shortage??? #57351
10/11/05 10:27 PM
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e57  Offline
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Posts: 2,876
S.F.,CA USA
Let me guess.... they are blaming this on Katrina?

What a crock!

FYI after Katrina (the next day) Gas prices in CA shot up $.40, until the Attorny General threatened prosicution for price gouging, then dropped $.30...


Mark Heller
"Well - I oughta....." -Jackie Gleason
Re: PVC Conduit Shortage??? #57352
10/12/05 11:18 AM
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Partywaggin  Offline OP
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Tucson, AZ
QUOTE: "The supply house here in NJ just told me that the price of PVC just went up 18%. That is when you can find it. This what I am being told. If you were not a customer already, the bigger suppliers are not shipping to new customers. Anything that has petrol products in it might have the same problem. Much of the building supplies are heading down to the hurricane area and gas prices are killing everything else."

Thanks. Yeah, suppliers out here in AZ are telling developers to call back in a month. They aren't even taking back orders. 18% doesn't sounds too bad assuming you can get it, like you say. Oh well....

Wes

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10/12/05 01:17 PM
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gfretwell  Online Content

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Has this trickled down to the EMT and UF cable biz yet?


Greg Fretwell
Re: PVC Conduit Shortage??? #57354
10/12/05 02:08 PM
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NJwirenut  Offline
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Posts: 806
Bergen County, NJ
Not sure about UF cable, but it wouldn't surprise me.

I just placed an order for a large amount of multiconductor cable (communication/instrumentation stuff) from Newark Electronics, and was told that the cable supplier (Belden) had just jacked up prices by ~20% in the last week due to the cost/availability of PVC resin. Apparently, the main producers of the stuff are along the gulf coast...

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