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#56121 - 09/15/05 08:52 PM Neutral Current Carrrying?  
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I know this has probally been asked a thousand times but does the neutral in a 2 wire single phase circuit(ie: a small apliance branch circuit) count as a current carrying conductor?


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#56122 - 09/15/05 08:59 PM Re: Neutral Current Carrrying?  
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You don't have a neutral in a two wire circuit. [Linked Image]

You have a ungrounded conductor, a grounded conductor and maybe a grounding conductor.

Both the ungrounded conductor and grounded conductor are current carrying conductors.

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#56123 - 09/15/05 09:02 PM Re: Neutral Current Carrrying?  
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Absolutely, in a 2 wire circuit it is impossible to have a neutral conductor. Click Here

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#56124 - 09/15/05 09:05 PM Re: Neutral Current Carrrying?  
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I was a little slow on that one Bob. [Linked Image]

Roger


#56125 - 09/15/05 09:13 PM Re: Neutral Current Carrrying?  
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Thanks guys I just read the post in the nec forum and understand.


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#56126 - 09/15/05 09:13 PM Re: Neutral Current Carrrying?  
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...Bob,I may be wrong here,but,isn't the grounded conductor considered current-carrying ONLY when used in circuits where there are non-linear loads harmonics,such as HID lighting,servo controls,ballasts,or in a 3 phase wye utilizing only 2 phases and a neutral...etc??otherwise,if the circuit is balanced,the current on the neutral is 0,you wouldn't count it as current -carrying for derating purposes,ampacity..??
Russ


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#56127 - 09/15/05 09:19 PM Re: Neutral Current Carrrying?  
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Attic Rat, the OP was asking about a two wire circuit, not a multiwire circuit where current could balance in the neutral.

-Jon


#56128 - 09/15/05 09:21 PM Re: Neutral Current Carrrying?  
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Ooops,..my bad... [Linked Image] [Linked Image]


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#56129 - 09/15/05 09:37 PM Re: Neutral Current Carrrying?  
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Does a grounded conductor have to be perfectly balanced in order not to be counted as a current carrying conductor? Can someone give a feild example?


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#56130 - 09/15/05 09:42 PM Re: Neutral Current Carrrying?  
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... Take a normal 3 phase wye circuit,..all sharing the neutral,and the loads close to being equal...(barring the use of HID fixtures,processors,variable speed drives etc)and you should have a balanced circuit..
Russ


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