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#53501 06/30/05 11:38 PM
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code book is in the truck, but I thought it was required if any metal present on can trim, and if trim ring is plastic, no GFI required. We always did it to allow more versatility of trim and avoid inspector hassels because some liked it and we were too busy to argue.

#53502 07/04/05 04:55 PM
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you should get your code book out of your trunk

#53503 07/06/05 07:41 PM
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"we were too busy to argue."
Sorry, not a valid answer.
I am never too busy to argue.


Speedy Petey

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#53504 07/06/05 10:25 PM
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Speedy, "we ARE too busy to argue." It's something I have gotten very used to... The Inspector is the AHJ, and all is subject to thier interpretation, or on occassion, whim. I only aurgue if it will cost company or customer an exorbanant amount of money. $15 for a GFI planned into the scope, is a pittance for the time and arguement, re-inspection or having the inspector dis-allow lighting in certain areas of showers and tubs. Calling 410.4D, it makes no mention of reccessed lighting... But, if less that 8', many of our Inspector will make the request for one, and on occasion bend the rules of that if on a GFI, as it make no mention of scones over a tub either. As one put it, "Some moron is going to try to change a bulb in that bare foot, put it on a GFI." OK! Customer gets charged a few bucks. Card is signed, and owner moves in, I get to see the happy inspector on the job across the street.

Hows Electure put it sometimes, 'it not code, its design'?


Mark Heller
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