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I’m still having a hard time convincing designers we have to meet the current energy code. This new one is going to be a nightmare. One benefit will be the sales from having to use occupancy sensors or dimmers for almost every switch in the house. I’m not sure what is going to happen for exterior lights but my guess is there are going to be a lot of temporary fixtures installed to get a final.
Curt Swartz
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not only state of californe will do this and there are few other state will adopt this code as well [ state of wisconsin will be adoting this very soon i dont know when effective date will be somehow little diffrent than state of californe will do]
I belive it will make it more challange for some of us to deal with alot of new stuff here and some owners will have hard time to deal with the change of trend to engery saving trend but the tech stuff is allready there from commercal market it will show up in resdentinal aera soon ,
that going drive some cost up a bit too so let see where this trend will go for resdentinal area
merci , marc
[This message has been edited by frenchelectrican (edited 02-05-2005).]
Pas de problme,il marche n'est-ce pas?"(No problem, it works doesn't it?)
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Now all we need is lighting manufacturers to realize that there is going to be a huge market for high efficacy light fixtures, maybe giving the public more options for these type of lights - ones that look good in their homes. I don't know about you guys but I spend a lot of time changing out light fixtures and can guts after inspections to keep a lot of my high-end clients happy with their 6 and 7 figure remodels when they did the right thing and pulled permits. Which brings up another topic. What about all the fewer people out their that aren't going to pull that permit to remodel their kitchen or their bathroom because of cost and lighting options. Thus taking more work from the licensed guys and giving them to the guys who don't care about compling with Title 24 - i.e. handymen working for real estate agents feeding the endless market of multi-million $ Bay area homes Sorry guys I had to vent on that one! [This message has been edited by Northbayec (edited 02-05-2005).]
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I agree this is going to be hard to break to the owners! Hell, even I will agree that a bunch of little 4" cans w/ MR-16's and Xenon counter lights looks 10x better than the flourescent alternative. Flourescent does not scale down to residential sized rooms, and as mentioned above, there are not many fixtures that look good that take pin-based CFL's.
That said, I haven't done a remodel in a while, but my girlfriend's parents are about to start on their kitchen (Poway, CA ), I asked if their building inspector was aksing for flourescents, etc per the 2001 code, and they just gave me a blank stare...
So, who enforces this??? Building dept or is there another inspection by the CA Energy Commission?
Looks like it's time to go learn about dimming ballasts! Mike
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So does this mean that in all new and renovated housing, most of the lighting now will have to be fluorescent tubes? Wow! That is pretty heavy-handed. Of course that's not going to stop average Joe-homeowner from replacing the Circ-line fluorsecent kitchen fixture with a regular porcelain lampholder so he can screw in an incandescent bulb.
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Wow! That is pretty heavy-handed. Welcome to the People's Fascist Republic of Kalifornia! You can't be trusted to make good choices for how to light your own home, so we're going to make the choices for you.
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You got that right Solar. A beautiful place I don't think I even want to visit. Shame really.
Speedy Petey
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." -Albert Einstein
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pdh,
Do you have problems with the T8's too. They have a higher frequency (400hz?) and the color rendition is much better.
What about HID like HPS & MH or worse Mecury vapor?
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