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#47209 01/11/05 10:39 PM
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I have a customer that is moving his sump pump outside. It currently is in a crawlspace under his master bedroom, and he is tired of hearing it cycle on & off at night, so they are digging a hole just outside, running the drain tiles to it, and then piping it to the storm sewer.

I want to avoid GFI to avoid nusiance tripping flooding the lower level. Any suggestions? I'm thinking an in-use cover with a single receptacle wouldn't fly because that exception only applies to the garage and basement.

Any suggestions?


Can I clip the cord and run it into an AC disconnect?

#47210 01/12/05 10:57 AM
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Can't you find an applicable exception to the GFI requirement based on: a) receptacle location not readily accessable, or: b) single receptacle (not duplex) dedicated to equipment fixed in place (Art 210-8)?


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#47211 01/12/05 12:23 PM
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Hey, install a GFCI; it is required to protect people from shock. Perhaps install it on a wall indoors so it will not get moisture in it and feed the sump pump downstream. If it trips, try to find a 15 mili-amp tripping model. If that trips, you will have to replace the GFCI with a switch. At least you tried. I am assuming that it is a new sump pump or they cannot afford to get a new one.

#47212 01/12/05 01:54 PM
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I'd keep the power cord and install a single receptacle with a WWIU cover. GFCI protection isn't required or recommended.

Dave

#47213 01/12/05 02:14 PM
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There is no code exception for this appication. The only excecption to 210.8(A)(3) is for snow melting equipment. You have 3 choices, 1) install the GFCI, 2) install a hardwired pump, or 3) install a 240 volt cord connected pump.
Don


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#47214 01/12/05 09:36 PM
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Thanks guys.

Don, I was thinking along the same lines as you, except I didn't think of your option 3.

I'll put this question to my AHJ, but do any of you see a problem with cutting off the end of the cord? I guess besides maybe that a plumber will be fiddling around with it when it comes time to replace it.


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