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Re: Customer Installed PVC #43928 10/25/04 07:00 PM
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capt al Offline
Bob, you can call me an MOB anytime. Showing off can be a good thing when you are right. 300.5(D)(5) is a good point to remember also.


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Re: Customer Installed PVC #43929 10/25/04 09:20 PM
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PCBelarge Offline
The difference of the "THHN or THWN" type conductor is the temperature rating of the conductor for ampacity rating.
If you use the "THHN or THWN" conductor (dual rated conductor) for underground, you can only use the THWN using the 75*C column of table 310.16, even for ampacity adjustment.
Example: 2 AWG THHN is rated for 130 amps at 90*C, 2AWG THWN is rated for 115 amps at 75*C.

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Re: Customer Installed PVC #43930 10/25/04 10:42 PM
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ga.sparky56 Offline
Bob and Roger are actually College students who room together,and hatch this stuff up.

I think they learned it from two other guys named Ed and Bennie,who went to the same College. [Linked Image]

(Ducking for cover)


Re: Customer Installed PVC #43931 10/26/04 05:01 AM
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Roger Offline
Russell, no need to duck, being put in the same post with these three guys is quite the honor. [Linked Image]

BTW, Bob keeps his side of the dorm room pretty neat. [Linked Image]


Re: Customer Installed PVC #43932 10/26/04 06:07 PM
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energy7 Offline
Per PCBelarge' comments:
don't forget that the "weakest link" in the circuit governs. The terminals at equipment usually are rated at 60oC or 75oC, so that is the limitation on ampacity. i.e. Column to use in Tbl 310-16ff.

Re: Customer Installed PVC #43933 10/26/04 06:21 PM
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iwire Offline
Very true energy7, luckily very few items are not marked as 75 C. [Linked Image]


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Re: Customer Installed PVC #43934 10/26/04 07:38 PM
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Active 1 Offline
One time a customer did not want to wait for us so he ran 1 1/4 plumbling pvc. Nothing was glued together. He used plumbing elbows for bends. Under a new brick patio and 1/2 wall.


Re: Customer Installed PVC #43935 11/01/04 06:43 AM
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Pat@Amber Offline
The "plumbing pipe" thing happens to me all the time. Customers call me after they have poured the patio and tell me they already installed the pipe for the hot tub to make things "easy" for me. It's usually 1/2 inch plumbing pipe and fittings no where close to where I need them. Thanks for the help!

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