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#42343 09/19/04 04:42 PM
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Hi,
What do you get for a 100A or a 200A meter loop INSTALLED on a 30 foot pole? Everything PLUS THE POLE, installed.

Here is a list of their materials:

100A - $350
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1 Weatherhead (5 hole) 1 1/2"
15' Conduit* 1 1/2"
1 Meter base 100 Amp
1 Nipple Conduit (2 1/2" to 4" long) 1 1/2"
2 Locknuts 1 1/2"
1 Bushing 1 1/2"
1 Main breaker 100 Amp
1 Weatherproof breaker box 100 Amp
1 Hub for above breaker box 1 1/2"
22' Neutral Conductor #6 AWG @86' Conductor (copper)for line and load side #2 THW
4 Conduit screws 1 1/2"
4 Lag screws 3/8" X 3"
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.

200A $500
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1 Weatherhead (5 hole) 2 1/2"
15' Conduit* 2 1/2"
1 Meter base 200 Amp
1 Nipple Conduit (2 1/2" to 4" long) 2 1/2"
2 Locknuts 2 1/2"
1 Bushing 2 1/2"
1 Main breaker 200 Amp
1 Weatherproof breaker box 200 Amp
1 Hub for above breaker box 2 1/2"
22' Neutral Conductor #4 AWG @86' Conductor (copper)for line and load side #3/0 THW
4 Conduit screws 2 1/2"
4 Lag screws 3/8" X 3"
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.

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Are these prices not too low? This is what a couple co-ops are charging..

Thanks

Mustang




[This message has been edited by mustangelectric (edited 09-20-2004).]

#42344 09/19/04 04:45 PM
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Is that installed? It does not sound like it.

#42345 09/19/04 10:05 PM
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This is way too low if those prices are for installed work. The prices are close to material costs. what is your labor worth?


ed
#42346 09/19/04 10:20 PM
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these are NOT my prices...these are what most Co-op's is selling the equipment INSTALLED ON A 30 FOOT POLE!

i could not even come close to that...maybe double..but i doubt it..

mustang

#42347 09/19/04 10:23 PM
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here's some reasons why it is hard to make a buck or two...check this out.. http://www.crawfordelco.com/meterbases.htm http://www.jecec.com/products.htm
know of a lot more too..

mustang


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#42348 09/19/04 10:24 PM
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Mustang,

I'm with these guys. This sounds way to cheap. I usually average $600-$800 on a 100 amp and $800-$1000 on 200 amp. Of course many factors vary.

If this is a pole service on a farm or homestead with several outbuildings, then that adds to the cost of splicing several laterals. (time and materials of the splice)

[This message has been edited by Merlin (edited 09-19-2004).]

#42349 09/20/04 12:43 AM
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For a new 200a straight forward service we get closer to $2000. We put the panels inside here. Some places you can pay $200 just permits, fees, and bonds. For 2 sticks of ridgid it is $50. Yo did not put in anything for the ground system. I think you need a few more lock nuts and bushings. No straps for the mast. I herd the service price was $10 an amp orer 20 years ago. Whats going on?

Tom

#42350 09/20/04 08:49 AM
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Active,
Thanks for the reply. The list of materials came from another website. This is what the CO-OP charges for a 100 and 200A service on a 30' pole INSTALLED.

If I do a meter loop I use:

Meter base with hub, PVC nipple with 2 male adapters, locknut and bushing and a HUB for the main panel. There is only ONE locknut required for this type of install. The one that connects the panel to the meter base.

Grounding? Yeah they left that out..it is an underground install...

Thanks for pointing that out. You have an eye for detail!

Myself I charge what I think the job is worth..if I don't get it, I thank them for calling, wish them luck and tell them to have a good day.

thats the beauty of america, you can charge whatever the market will bear!

thanks again for the replies...very interesting.

-regards

Mustang


[This message has been edited by mustangelectric (edited 09-20-2004).]

#42351 09/20/04 08:53 AM
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Material list source:
http://www.norriselectric.com/underground_printable.html

-regards

mustang

#42352 09/20/04 10:48 AM
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In this area, we have no "CO-OPs", and our utility co's do not install meter pans and service 'drops'

Looking at the link you provided, this is a "utility owned service, to the load side of the meter"

One utility here (PSE&G) supplies meter pans (100/200 etc) to the EC/HO upon submittal of the original Twp permit. Everything else is supplied by the EC/HO.

I guess that the CO-OP installs the service to the line side of the meter, and the EC continues??? The grounding issue in your post would have to be installed with the 'load' side equipment.

We also are not usually allowed to install ANYTHING on a utility owned pole, except riser conduit for 10' above grade, and conductors to reach the utility lines/transformer.

BTW, the $$ sounds dirt cheap. Our POCO's have high costs for work required to provide service thanks to de-regulation.

John


John
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