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#38208 05/18/04 08:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
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34 MPG! my company truck is lucky to get 11 MPG, personal truck about 16 MPG.

My personal truck has a 39 gal tank, I hate when my wife lets it go to empty.

Bob Badger
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#38209 05/18/04 08:49 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 49
this gas prices are crazy how do they expect us to live. the sh***Y part about it is that they want us to think when prices do drop back under 1.80 a gallon thats cheap. ITS NOT.

#38210 05/18/04 09:59 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 914
I know gas is higher than we are used to, but in historical comparison, it is cheap. When adjusted for inflation, we should be paying even more based on prices of the 80's. I started driving in 1985 and was paying $1.25 for regular, it stayed the same or went down until recently. About 3 years ago I was paying 70 cents on a regular basis. I guess now I'm averaging it out. It's costing us a little more to drive around, but only a few dollars a day per truck x 4, not enough to cry about yet. Now copper and steel, that's eating the bottom line!

#38211 05/19/04 12:55 AM
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 642
As cost go up so do my rates. If you cannot make a profit why own a company. You can go broke sleeping at home, so why work your rear end off to go broke?
Still believe most the oil costs are caused by greed and excissive taxes. [Linked Image]

#38212 05/19/04 01:44 AM
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 375
Everyone seems to complain about gas prices.

My van costs me over $3000 a year in loss of resale value. My gas at current prices only costs about $1600 per year.

Relative to the cost of owning a van the cost of gas is still small.

#38213 05/19/04 05:11 AM
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I started driving in 1985 and was paying $1.25 for regular, it stayed the same or went down until recently. About 3 years ago I was paying 70 cents on a regular basis.
Wow, it certainly did stay fairly stable for a while after the huge increases of the 1970s. As I recall I only paid about $1.20 in Fla. back in '92. Lowest I ever paid in the U.S.A. was 99 cents in southern Ga. in 1993 (lower taxes!). When I left Nebraska in '96 I was paying around $1.10.

Our high prices in the U.K. are due entirely to the government's greed in putting a 300% tax on fuel. Yep, you read that right -- 300%! It's offset a little by the smaller engines and shorter distances, but it still makes getting around much more expensive than in America. [Linked Image]

#38214 05/19/04 06:49 AM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 50
It's offset a little by the smaller engines and shorter distances, but it still makes getting around much more expensive than in America

Paul, I don't see them as offsets, we have far higher traffic volumes that anywhere in the US. The UK has about 1/5th the overall national traffic volume of the US, but it is occuring in an area 1/3rd the size of Texas, and 65% of the UK traffic occurs within the M25...6200 sq miles!!

In real terms there are somwhere around 17 million vehicles inside the M25 at any one time between 6am and 6pm, and this only drops to an estimated 8 million after 9pm!!

Many people forget that Londons Population is actulally higher than most stated figures of around 8 million.

The London Boroughs combined total population is over 12.9 Million and the M25 population (those living INSIDE the M25) is around 18/19 Million.

I used to live in Waltham Forest, one of the largest boroughs..maybe the largest.. and at that time the population was 2.2 million alone.

Congestion charging in the city has had no effect on traffic at all IMHO, it takes me longer to get somewhere in the city now that ever before.

I live 17.8 miles from the centre, and it used to take me about 1.5 hrs to get to say Liverpool Street/Broadgate from the now can take up to 2.5 to 3 hours!..all the while wasting fuel and paying the government for the bloody privelege

#38215 05/19/04 08:29 AM
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 360
I have a friend of mine that has a Mack rollback truck. Owns a farm and plays with 12 inch guage railroads. Has a dual tank system. Second tank has been converted to run on the grease from deep fat fryers.
Little less power, but a lot cheaper.

Smells like a burger joint when he goes by.


#38216 05/19/04 08:42 AM
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,520
Yes, I would have to agree that any advantages are in turn offset by the horrendous congestion in our cities, and even Norwuch gets packed during the rush-hour. But out here in rural Norfolk, it's not that bad. According to the locals, four cars waiting at an intersection simultaneously is "heavy traffic!"

Smells like a burger joint when he goes by.
Funny you should mention that. It reminds me of this story from a while back:

#38217 05/19/04 09:59 AM
Joined: Apr 2002
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Ah, as luck has it...picked up a '04 Suburban 5/8/04...traded in the Tahoe. Sticker is 14 city/18 hwy, oh well.

Diesel and gas are about the same here in NJ, basically under or around $2.00 gal today.

The only recourse for my business is to adjust rates, or add travel charges to the T&M jobs.

I have to fill up the boat Saturday/Sunday, and can only imagine the "Marine" (Marina) gas prices for this season. As I elect to have a boat, I'm not complaining about marine gas prices, as it will not accomplish anything anyway.

As to the fuel prices in general, we all have to accept the fact that whatever they 'charge' we have to pay, unless we find alternate methods of transportation, which in most areas, and most cases, are non-existant.


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