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#222594 07/08/24 03:17 PM
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As frequent visitors will know, I’ve retired (for the most part) but maintain my licenses. I have just begun taking a 2023 NEC update course (I’m still in Article 100) smile

I find this particular code revision . . . Interesting. I note that it addresses several matters I’ve either dealt with, or discussed here before. There’s even a common practice of mine that, over the years, has caused a lot of controversy — and the 2023 code comes down squarely on my side. Even though I may have been “right,” I’m uneasy with some matters entering the code; IMO, the code is reaching beyond its’ proper role. (Example: listing of light fixtures).

Looks like i have a new code book to read. I wonder if inflation has hit the NFPA yet (Grrrr.)

I’ll post some more discussions in the near future. Some will bring up old topics we’ve discussed many times (upward-facing receptacles being one) that the new code has decided to “clarify.”

In addition to using new photos, I’ll dip into my files and dig out some oldies-but-goodies I’ve shared here over the years. (Anyone remember the residential service directly over a set of basement stairs?).

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First Comment: Prices !!!
My heavens, more than $250 for an NEC Handbook? Even the “code changes” book costs $70. Seems it wasn’t so long ago the code book itself cost $70.

All in favor of putting the NEC on a 10-year cycle, say “Aye!”

All in favor of Veeck (free public access to ALL laws), say “Aye!”

I’ve never been “political,” but a few of the changes — the ones extending the reach of the NEC or incorporating other standards — appear to have as their main effect letting more hands dip into my wallet. Maybe old age has just made me cynical smile

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I have been arguing for a 10 year cycle for years myself. I guess NFPA is still really in the business of selling books and they would like to sell you a new book every year.
The NRTLs aren't any better. I am glad I am fully retired. I still have a passing interest in this but I am not buying any more books.


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Well you bring up the one thing about this forum that annoys me: So few come here!
It seems like only yesterday— actually, about 20 years ago — when the threads were as lively as a field of jumping beans after an earthquake! I’m afraid those beans hatched into crickets.

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Well, I just finished the CEU course. Got 75/75 right — my first “perfect” score. Fees paid and application being processed.
Costs: $52 for the license; $69 for the CEU; $265 for the NEC Handbook; $70 for the “changes” book. Total: $456. I used to dream of making that much in a week.
Books should arrive next week. Until then, I’m digging out my pictures and perusing the CEU test questions. (This time I was smart enough to print the CEU materials).

If nothing else, the code cycle stimulates interest in code details. Overall? Most of the changes tend to fall into three categories:
— New rules making “code” what I’ve been doing for decades;
— New rules ridiculous in their micro-management of minutia; and,
— New rules clearly pushed by a specific vendor or party for their convenience.

Kind of makes me wonder how we’ve managed over a century of living with electricity without some self-appointed gurus deciding for us which way the ground prong should point.

Countering this, pushing back, there seems to be a more vocal element putting up videos on how to do electrical work without risk to your remaining totally ignorant. Suicide plugs? Of course. Pull wires as you assemble the pipe? You betcha. Weld the pipe? Sure easier than mounting all those little straps or buying those expensive fittings.

Well, I digress. Hurdle overcome. I expect my next post will open the discussion to one of the changes.
Why don’t we start with 90.5(C): Explanatory Material?
See you tomorrow smile

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NEW JERSEY CLASS JOURNEYMAN NEED 15 hrs for Dec 2024 RENEWAL CURRENTLY THE REQUIREMENT IS IN PERSON CLASSES HOWEVER THE BOARD IS IN THE PROCESS OF REVISING THE REQUIREMENT TO ALLOW ONLINE CLASSES . IF YOU ARE A NJ JOURNEYMAN I WOULD WAIT FEW WEEKS BEFORE SIGNING UP FOR 2 DAYS IN A CLASSROOM .

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Welcome, new member. We welcome your participation here.

In this thread I intend to discuss most of the 2023 changes one at a time. If we really get wrapped up in a topic, we can always start a new thread in the code section on that specific topic.

(BTW, there’s no need to use all capital letters in your posts).

Be sure to share your experience with your CEU class/


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