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Re: Permit Snafus...AHJs and Contractors Jump in [Re: HotLine1] #220317 10/06/19 08:06 AM
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It happens

I had a call where some 'soon to be evicted' folks complained to every state agency possible, our 'lectrical division being one. So my AHJ writes up what is no more than standard fare w/deadlines.... i waltz into a lot of bad news (grow rooms, etc) , and call my AHJ to ask if it can all wait until they're out.

Next thing we know, we're both on the court docket

~S~

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Re: Permit Snafus...AHJs and Contractors Jump in [Re: HotLine1] #220318 10/06/19 02:46 PM
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On the docket as what? Defendants?


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Re: Permit Snafus...AHJs and Contractors Jump in [Re: HotLine1] #220319 10/06/19 04:21 PM
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Yes Greg,
Windham Vt county court docket, as 'ammo' for the deadbeat defendants to use both myself and my ahj against the plantiff landlord.

Fortunately, a writ of possession was granted the landlord before it came to fruition

I guess someone of legal authority realized said deadbeats were playing both ends to their advantage ,and shut them off

As for my ahj and i, we're rather relieved , both of us try and do our jobs the best we can, and would rather avoid any litigant ado

~S~

Re: Permit Snafus...AHJs and Contractors Jump in [Re: HotLine1] #220320 10/06/19 07:19 PM
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Yet that is a mere 'bump' in the road for me.
How's not getting a final, after a year of asking for it?
And, on the biggest job in my state at the time....

My AHJ quit over it

~S~

Re: Permit Snafus...AHJs and Contractors Jump in [Re: HotLine1] #220322 10/07/19 08:28 AM
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FWIW, I have a SFD that has been a real, real PITA for the last 2+years. Basically a run down hoarders structure. Many complaints re: rodents (rats) and ferrel cats, and the stench that goes with a place like that. Not being used to 'occupy', but bacically 'kept' for sentimental reasons by the owner.

Health Dept. issues and numerous Citations, Summons (Muni Court) Lien on property for exterminator services, grounds cleanup, etc.

Declared it Unsafe, posted and processed all the paperwork. She submitted request to go to the Board of Appeals. Postponed a few times, and finally showed. Board heard her plea, ruled for either demo or complete repairs/renov.

She requested 'next step', and was advised by Board to file with Superior Court and hire an attorney. More delays.

Next, Superior Court allows 6 months to make all required clean-up, both inside and exterior, all repair work, etc.
Time passes, she had vinyl siding installed, and a roof replacement, and cleared out a 'path' thru the first floor. The walls and floor are covered in mold, and it's still uninhabitable for humans.

Plus, when the siding was done, the old service & meter vanished and now she is trying to get an EC to install a new service. She came into the office with 1 'estimate' for a service and tried to con the clerks into accepting that as a the electrical service is restored!! Not happening.

We will continue this someday soon......


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Re: Permit Snafus...AHJs and Contractors Jump in [Re: HotLine1] #220323 10/07/19 06:29 PM
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I once got a late night service call for a partial power outage at a house nearby. When I got to the scene the Police were there too.

It turns out that Deadbeat tenants lived in the converted Garage (where the panel was) and were turning off Breakers that served the Landlord's part of the House. The Police were there to escort me in so I could turn the Breakers back on.

Easiest Service Call Ever!!


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Re: Permit Snafus...AHJs and Contractors Jump in [Re: HotLine1] #220325 10/07/19 07:45 PM
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Myself, i've been caught in the 'middle' far too many times.

As an EC trying to keep a roof overhead, litigation avenue always is a loosing proposition

The problem is, we always seem to be a target

~S~

Re: Permit Snafus...AHJs and Contractors Jump in [Re: HotLine1] #220326 10/08/19 09:47 AM
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I agree with you 100% on the loosing proposition and time wasted.
For the EC, it's a loss of $$ (time)
For the AHJs it's a loss of time, and if you are in a busy locale, it affects the ECs ($ on inspection pass), the HOs, the builders, and other trades IF a rough is delayed.

I have a time waster on the 16th of this month, probably will kill all or most of the day.

Stay safe!


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Re: Permit Snafus...AHJs and Contractors Jump in [Re: HotLine1] #220327 10/09/19 12:20 AM
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I guess I really lived a sheltered life in my state job. We didn't have any drama like that.


Greg Fretwell
Re: Permit Snafus...AHJs and Contractors Jump in [Re: HotLine1] #220329 10/09/19 07:10 PM
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I used to think the backwoods of Vermont is about as sheltered as one can get Greg

But the truth of it is, human nature doesn't change much because of seclusion.

I've see big $$$ come around, our states politicians stump for it, patting themselves on the back taking credit

along with all the bureaucracies we pay for blatantly ignoring their jobs , because they're told to 'back off'

in fact, i've even had formal complaints against my own work ignored, then gone over heads with it

I can remember closing the door on the head inspectors office, to quietly inform him "If I go down, you'll go down with me"

all 'drama' i did not need , but probably exists a LOT more than we'd care to admit in our system

~S~

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