ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
Shout Box
Recent Posts
Extension cords
by LongRunner. 05/25/18 12:19 PM
Fire source!
by LongRunner. 05/25/18 01:49 AM
Alternative income sources
by gfretwell. 05/24/18 10:07 PM
Furnace igniter leaking noise to stereo
by geoff in UK. 05/23/18 01:18 PM
Opinions Please
by Keith_Mc. 05/23/18 09:22 AM
New in the Gallery:
Plug terminals
Housebilding DIY wiring
Who's Online Now
2 registered members (ampherder, geoff in UK), 29 guests, and 12 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Re: turning down possible problem customer [Re: Wiresmith] #219349
05/14/18 06:23 AM
05/14/18 06:23 AM
W
wattsittoyou  Offline
New Member
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 2
Georgia
I don't like saying I'm too busy because it might come back to bite me in the ass. A lot of times I try to address the issues head on or price myself out of the job.

Business, Office, Estimating, Legal:
Re: turning down possible problem customer [Re: Wiresmith] #219351
05/14/18 09:31 AM
05/14/18 09:31 AM
HotLine1  Offline

Member
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,967
Brick, NJ USA
Wiresmith:

Your list of 'excuses' above are not something that I would ever say to any clients, back when I ran my business.

Jobs that look like 'problems' require talented approach, and there are no problems that cannot be surmounted, albeit the costs may be high. Explaining the scope of proposed work, and what is required for compliance with Code, and cosmetically is all part of the 'Proposal' stage of all jobs.

As to a concern over payments, spell all payments due within your contract/proposal documents. If you 'feel' that $$$$ looks like an issue, I did what Greg said.....RUN.

My approach of details and dollars, along with the suggestion to unknown clients to 'get at least three (3) estimates/proposals solved the problems of those that appeared 'shaky'.

And, yes, no matter how hard we try, I believe all of us have been 'burned' somewhat over the years.


John
Re: turning down possible problem customer [Re: Wiresmith] #219355
05/19/18 01:59 PM
05/19/18 01:59 PM
W
Wiresmith  Offline OP
Member
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 12
Midwest U.S.
thanks john,


the issue i have with just running from jobs with fear of non-payment is i see it as a little unprofessional, i'm considering your suggestion, but i'm still looking for a solution where i can be upfront about the issue

Re: turning down possible problem customer [Re: Wiresmith] #219357
05/19/18 07:31 PM
05/19/18 07:31 PM
G
gfretwell  Offline

Member
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,225
Estero,Fl,usa
If you are not being paid you are not a professional, you are a hobbyist wink


Greg Fretwell
Re: turning down possible problem customer [Re: Wiresmith] #219362
05/21/18 07:53 AM
05/21/18 07:53 AM
HotLine1  Offline

Member
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,967
Brick, NJ USA
wiresmith:

OK, do you have a business plan?
Do you write estimates? Then a Contract, when the estimate/proposal is accepted?

Does your paperwork (Estimate/Proposal AND Contract) specifically state a payment schedule, Including a deposit?

Was/is your paperwork reviewed by a lawyer for legality? Do you have a relationship with a lawyer?

All of the above CAN help, although none are a guarantee of not getting burned.


John
Page 2 of 2 1 2

Featured:

2017 Master Electrician Exam Preparation Combos
2017 NEC Electrician
Exam Prep Combos:
Master / Journeyman

 

Member Spotlight
JoeKP
JoeKP
Berkley, MA
Posts: 144
Joined: March 2008
Show All Member Profiles 
Top Posters(30 Days)
twh 12
Popular Topics(Views)
246,909 Are you busy
184,276 Re: Forum
173,508 Need opinion
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1
(Release build 20180101)
Page Time: 0.033s Queries: 16 (0.005s) Memory: 0.9836 MB (Peak: 1.1278 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2018-05-25 18:17:32 UTC