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Question from my wife. Do they make a handrail you can install in ungrounded (non conductive) cups?
They are having a problem because old folks are requiring handrails where they were not planned in construction.
No bond wire available.


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This company in Florida says their Fiberglass rails are non conductive and meet or exceed code. they have above ground mounting bases

In their Faq there is a response why they have been tested and bonding is not required.

http://www.saftron.com/products/pool/pool-rails.html

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Thanks. I am surprised the inspector never heard of them. I will pass this along.


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No problem, just had a few minutes to kill and found them in Google search.

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I saw them too. I was really hoping for a happy AHJ story. wink


Maybe retrofitting handrails is just a Florida thing.


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Greg:
I've seem two (2) replacement rails that were installed, and had documentation for being non-conductive (UL)

Both were at HOAs pools earlier this year. Ironically, they were both installed to existing cups that passed the pool bonding certification test about 2 weeks before they were installed. Expensive item? I heard $750+.

Retested after they were installed, and cups were approved as 'pass'. Guess they had $$$ to burn.


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OK Thanks John.
These will be new cups and all but that company says they have non-metallic cups too. I assume you had no issues with the strength of the rail?


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Greg:
The Building and Health inspectors had no issues.
I felt it, and it was solid. No flex.



John

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