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Pools: is there a listed, nonconductive handrail?
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11/18/16 09:33 PM
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Question from my wife. Do they make a handrail you can install in ungrounded (non conductive) cups? They are having a problem because old folks are requiring handrails where they were not planned in construction. No bond wire available.
Greg Fretwell
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Re: Pools: is there a listed, nonconductive handrail?
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11/19/16 03:30 PM
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This company in Florida says their Fiberglass rails are non conductive and meet or exceed code. they have above ground mounting bases In their Faq there is a response why they have been tested and bonding is not required. http://www.saftron.com/products/pool/pool-rails.html
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Re: Pools: is there a listed, nonconductive handrail?
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11/19/16 09:31 PM
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Thanks. I am surprised the inspector never heard of them. I will pass this along.
Greg Fretwell
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Re: Pools: is there a listed, nonconductive handrail?
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11/20/16 04:37 PM
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No problem, just had a few minutes to kill and found them in Google search.
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Re: Pools: is there a listed, nonconductive handrail?
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11/21/16 12:42 AM
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I saw them too. I was really hoping for a happy AHJ story.  Maybe retrofitting handrails is just a Florida thing.
Greg Fretwell
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Re: Pools: is there a listed, nonconductive handrail?
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11/21/16 11:52 AM
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Greg: I've seem two (2) replacement rails that were installed, and had documentation for being non-conductive (UL)
Both were at HOAs pools earlier this year. Ironically, they were both installed to existing cups that passed the pool bonding certification test about 2 weeks before they were installed. Expensive item? I heard $750+.
Retested after they were installed, and cups were approved as 'pass'. Guess they had $$$ to burn.
John
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Re: Pools: is there a listed, nonconductive handrail?
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11/21/16 01:29 PM
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OK Thanks John. These will be new cups and all but that company says they have non-metallic cups too. I assume you had no issues with the strength of the rail?
Greg Fretwell
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Re: Pools: is there a listed, nonconductive handrail?
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11/21/16 04:34 PM
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Greg: The Building and Health inspectors had no issues. I felt it, and it was solid. No flex.
John
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