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Question from the book "Electrical License" #2172
06/24/01 07:54 PM
06/24/01 07:54 PM
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Mike Shn  Offline OP
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Hello
I'm working as a helper in small electrical firm. Today we had a debate in the work about the following chart:
you have first resistor which has 4 ohm ... than followed two resistors with 6 ohm each (these both resistors are parallel between each other). What is resistance at the end of the chart?
We debate more than an hour at the work. The answer in the book is 5 ohm. However some electrician say that correct answer is 7 ohm. What is correcy answer?
Thanks

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Re: Question from the book "Electrical License" #2173
06/24/01 08:21 PM
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Re: Question from the book "Electrical License" #2174
06/24/01 10:59 PM
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If two 6 ohm resistors are in parallel, the resistance is 3 ohms. Add the 4 ohms in series with this and you have your 7 ohms.

Re: Question from the book "Electrical License" #2175
06/25/01 12:17 AM
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Originally posted by Mike Shn:
Hello
I'm working as a helper in small electrical firm. Today we had a debate in the work about the following chart:
you have first resistor which has 4 ohm ... than followed two resistors with 6 ohm each (these both resistors are parallel between each other). What is resistance at the end of the chart?

If the 6 ohm resistors is connected in parallel then the total resitance of these resistors is 3 ohm. If you connect them in series with the 4 ohm resistor, then your total resistance is 7 ohm. However, if you connect the 4 ohm resistor in parallel also with each of 6 ohm reistors, the total reistance is 1.71 ohm.
We debate more than an hour at the work. The answer in the book is 5 ohm. However some electrician say that correct answer is 7 ohm. What is correcy answer?
Thanks


Re: Question from the book "Electrical License" #2176
06/25/01 06:43 AM
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Re: Question from the book "Electrical License" #2177
06/25/01 04:42 PM
06/25/01 04:42 PM
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Quick answers:

If DC, the total resistance is 7 ohms.

If AC, and one element is in reality some type of Reactance, then total Impedance is 5 ohms.

If AC, and all elements are pure resistance [true power only - no Reactance, or very minimal Reactance], then 7 ohms is the total resistance.

Scott SET


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Re: Question from the book "Electrical License" #2178
06/25/01 06:35 PM
06/25/01 06:35 PM
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You can't believe everything you read. Every time that I teach an electrical course, I work all the problems & see if my answers agree with the teachers answer guide. It is awful embarassing to be in front of a class trying to tell them they are all wrong when they are, in fact, 100% right.

Tom


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Re: Question from the book "Electrical License" #2179
06/25/01 10:39 PM
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This seems to be a simple combination circuit. In my humble opinion the answer is 7 ohms.

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Re: Question from the book "Electrical License" #2180
09/01/01 09:03 PM
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bordew  Offline
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Originally posted by Scott35:
Quick answers:

If DC, the total resistance is 7 ohms.

If AC, and one element is in reality some type of Reactance, then total Impedance is 5 ohms.

If AC, and all elements are pure resistance [true power only - no Reactance, or very minimal Reactance], then 7 ohms is the total resistance.

Scott SET


I am assuming that they were talking DC, however if the reactance is unknown how do you come up with a 5 ohm impedance and if there is a reactance there should be a corresponding phase angle. ???Or the impedance of a two terminal device is defined as follows; Voltage across the element(v(t))/ current through the element i
(t), when v(t) and i(t)have the sink reference relation and when v(t) and I(t)each vary as eEXPst.


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