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Hey Sven, I can relate
When we moved into this house, there was white carpet on the floor in the bathroom. I'd never heard of white carpet in the bathroom, but here we are.
We were here six years when the toilet started to wobble. I teased my wife that one morning one of us would sit down, right into the basement.
Well, one evening, I pulled a corner up on that now not so white carpet, and it was one of those things that once you start, there's no going back.
The floor used to be 5/8 particle board, I took it out with a dustpan. Underneath that was four layers of wood that used to be glued together. Turns out the teasing was almost right
God bless the man that invented the sawzall.
Everything out to the studs and start over. In a house with only one bathroom.
Ever try to mash a bathroom remodel into a budget where there wasn't one?
Oh well, the joys of home ownership.

TW

Rowdy,
I can dig your concern. I would never tell anyone that they can't work on their own house. I think a wise DIY'er would stay away from electrical work. With the advent of the "Blue" and "Orange" boxes, I think DYI electrical work is not only here to stay, but will in the future get worse. The sad part of this story is....how many houses have, and will burn down because of DIY electrical work. How many have, or will.....how shall I say it?.......parish....because of DIY electric.
As we all know, every joint is a potential fire. The problem with DIY'ers is that they don't know it.

Freedom? Yes!
Wisdom? Please!
Doc

LOL~ good one Sven


well said Doc, in my little corner of the 'lectrical universe i've simply found that you can't beat 'em, so join 'em.

that said, there is to me quite the difference from a DIY'er, and those whom pass themselves off on others as a psuedo-sparky.

~S

pwood,
Is that an "S" trap? And aren't they illegal?

Brian,

You're on the money, that is a no longer allowed "S" Trap. Also that white s*** pipe is well known for leaking.

Bob

Bob, The white pipe is commonly used in my area. Our company does plumbing as well as electrical. I've never had much in the way of problems with the pvc/slipnut p-traps, but I'm in no way an expert plumber,just a decent journeyman.

Sparky

"psuedo sparky"

HEY! I resemble that remark!

TW

edit @#@$ spelling

[This message has been edited by Trainwire (edited 02-05-2003).]

ga.sparky.56

Lot of that stuff up here too and a lot of plumbers will warranty it until they hit the front door. Doesn't say much for the stuff IMO. But, I'm not a plumber.

On the DIY shows, I hate them. They convinced my wife that I could re-do the kitchen cabinets in 30 minutes.

Bob

bingo brian!
s trap bad toy. they tend to siphon out the trap thus allowing sewer gas to abound in the throne room.don't light that stogie while reading the morning rag while doing the morning movement or you could be tomorrow's headline. typically a trap arm would run to the wall to a drain and a "vent" to prevent a possible disaster.so sparkies even "recreational plumbing" can be hazardous to your health.kids "don't try this at home"darn lectricians put dat box whar my pipe posed ta go?

Sven and TW,

Does this sound familiar. "Why do you always have to make 2 or 3 trips to Home Depot?" I have learned to always measure or take the part with me when I go.

Quote from Sven. (thinking they're all standard)

Scott