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Re: Clothes Closet Fixture Clearance [Re: wewire2] #214074 09/29/14 01:26 AM
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I had a picture of one of those LBs here a while ago. There was a sharp shoulder on the inside of the hubs that you could strip wire with.

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Re: Clothes Closet Fixture Clearance [Re: wewire2] #214085 09/30/14 09:59 AM
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I got disgusted with UL a few years ago when I saw a design flaw in an MCC starter.

The operating mechanism for the fused disconnect blocked access to the fuse holders. The only way to change the fuses was to turn the starter disconnect ON and change the fuses while hot. I mentioned this to the guy at UL and he told me that they only test for safety when properly installed and were not interested in anything having to do with "maintenance".

I now consider the UL Listing as little more than a starting point when I'm deciding what to specify on a job.

Re: Clothes Closet Fixture Clearance [Re: wewire2] #214086 09/30/14 07:10 PM
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This creates a major conflict, allowing a listed device to be installed specifically in conflict with the code. I do not have an issue with the LED rod lights and their conflict, but I know of another case where equipment is "Listed" and if installed according to listing, it works, but the manufacturer then says on the side that you don't need to follow code because our device is better than code, which is a lie or at best a horrible misrepresentation and creates a large hazard. The mfg. tried to get code changed, but the scientific community stopped it and still after many proofs of the failure of the device when installed according to the manufacturer claims, they misrepresent on.


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Re: Clothes Closet Fixture Clearance [Re: wewire2] #214087 10/01/14 06:08 PM
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It's up to the AHJ if they want to waive a Code requirement, but personally I would not accept a claim of a manufacturer as sufficient to ignore the Code (which, once properly adopted, has the force of law).

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